Wired Connection Fail

**Bman** · October 6th, 2009

Ok, so I could go on about internet issues I have had my whole life, through many houses and tech but this is about a certain issue. The last 4 months or so I have been loosing connection, for a short period of time, back up, down, back up, down for awhile........back up and usually good for a day after that. Repeat.

It's quite annoying. Now from what I can tell except for one time, this issue is only me and my computer, not the other ones in the house. Today it was one of the days where it worked untill an hour ago, lost connection. It's been about an hour and a half of no connection, I restarted and turned off the router and modem 20 times in 20 different ways, no luck. I changed the cables from my 360 and my computer around to see if that would help, both dead. The internet is working upstairs on the rest of the computers.

So do ethernet cables die? How would I test that, or maybe my ethernet port is dead? I doubt 2 cables that I am using would die at the same time, I also did try both of the cables directly into the modem same issue.

This is very weird. Any ideas?

Thanks.

Dark Atheist · October 6th, 2009

yes Ethernet cables can become faulty, more over the ends (connectors) can ware if you connect/disconnect a lot of times.

Get some new ones and see if that sorts it out, if not there are other gremlins lurking in your pc

**Bman** · October 6th, 2009

I will hoping be going to pick up some new cables.

I don't suppose doing something with my network drivers would help, my friend insists on trying to install/reinstall those drivers, they are on board and I don't think I have ever installed/reinstalled them before, just basic windows drivers. I just did the simplistic thing ever, I rebooted and it seems to be working. Now I still don't trust it because the connection has been crap for awhile now and my cables are quite old. I am assuming it will go down again, either for a few seconds or awhile, I don't know. Any ideas guys, what could be causing connection lost like this?

If it's not the cables, is drivers all that are left?

Dark Atheist · October 6th, 2009

updated drivers may solve your issue, but then again it may not, although it never hurts to have the latest drivers, if the latest drivers and new cables don't help then it could be the card itself

**Bman** · October 6th, 2009

I just installed the latest nForce drivers. Let's see what happens.

Dark Atheist · October 6th, 2009

you didn't install the nvidia firewall did you? that has been known to cause a few issues

**Bman** · October 6th, 2009

No of course not. There were only 2 options in the install, ethernet and storage drivers. So I assume I didn't install any firewall.

**Terrahertz** · October 6th, 2009

Any luck Bman?

**Bman** · October 6th, 2009

Well as I said, I rebooted and it worked.

But as I said in the first post, it goes a day or a bit without issues, and then has the up and down issues. So I am giving it a day and a half to see what happens.

Will post back after that.

Thanks.

bush dogg · October 6th, 2009

I had that problem on a few XP systems a long time ago, if I remember right a couple of them reinstalling the drivers solved the problem but on one it was a power problem (I think) because I went into the properties, power management and unchecked the box to turn the device off to save power and it worked flawless from there on.

In XP navigate to device manager, expand network adapters select your network device and right click then select properties, select the power management tab then at “allow the computer to turn off this device to save power” see if it’s checked if so then uncheck it OK it and see if that helps.

One thing to note the system with the power problem would have to be rebooted quite often to restore the network until the above was unchecked.

**Bman** · October 7th, 2009

I don't think it was a power issue but that option was selected so I did uncheck it.

Thanks for the info.

As I said, I will post back in a day or so to see what happens.

**Terrahertz** · October 7th, 2009

I say get a new NIC or this could have been caused by a Windows update back when it started.

**Bman** · October 13th, 2009

6 Days ago I rebooted and my internet started to work again. That was after installing new drivers and such. So I thought I might have fixed it.

It just stopped working. This time I think hey let's try rebooting, and of course it fixed it again. Now this is another issue that started I think a couple days ago, but I think is related, when I shutdown to reboot, i get to the black screen with text, where the memory test and all that happens, and it freezes, i hit the reset button twice, same, the third time it boots into windows.

So what the heck is going on..

Takes 3 hard resets to boot into windows.

Internet connection fails after 3-6 days, fixed by a reboot.

**American Zombie** · October 13th, 2009

Have you looked in event viewer?

Info about connection up or down time and why would be in there.

If Windows has no info about the problem then you should suspect the router so look at the logs for it.

**Bman** · October 13th, 2009

I am going to look at that now.

And it's not the router, everything else using the internet in the house is working. And the router is new. Brb with details on the event viewer, but assuming it will say nothing.

*edit, nothing in the Event Viewer.

When I rebooted this time, and it fixed it. It lasted about 30 minutes I think. This time I found the "Identify & Repair Network Problems" wizard, and it fixed it. It said something about resetting the adapter. I assume this is a temporary fix just like rebooting. I will let you know.

**American Zombie** · October 13th, 2009

Are you using onboard NIC or a card?

I had a motherboard once that the onboard did the same thing as your problem so I disabled it and purchased a network card.

**Bman** · October 13th, 2009

Yes its onboard. I don't exactly have money to spare for a new NIC, unless I am 100% sure that its a dead/issue filled onboard nic card.

*it was loosing connection every couple minutes since the last time I said.

Seems to be worse when I am downloading, maxing my connection. So makes sense there is something wrong with my onboard nic, but how to be sure.

**Bman** · October 14th, 2009

Getting quite annoying, I am paying for a newsgroup service I can't really use because when I am downloading at max, EIRJIEROJERJER DEAD! I have to restart and try, sometimes I can download for 30 minutes, sometimes only 5. WTF!!!

Going to see if I can find my mother board for cheap..but new...

*edit still expensive from stores, not much better on ebay

http://www.shopbot.ca/pp-evga-nforce...ice-99099.html

**edit Also, what is the cheapest best quality NIC card you can get? I mean like $60 or less lol

Dark Atheist · October 15th, 2009

all pretty much the same, some will say netgear others something else

**Bman** · October 25th, 2009

So I didn't end up getting any new card, yet.

Today I lost connection, and have not got it back. I was using the Repair tool and that would fix it till the next time, that didn't work. The internet in the house is working as always, just mine is dead. I can actually see and access the network, just no internet. I removed drivers, updated drivers, reinstalled drivers, changed ports on my computer, checked DNS settings, all the router tricks, etc. No luck.

I have network access, no internet access, I am the only one.

Ideas? If I can have network access then its not the card right?

October 6th, 2009	Top \| #1
Bman OSNN Designer Joined: July 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 8,700 Blog Entries: 106 Reputation: 1386 Power: 218	Wired Connection Fail Ok, so I could go on about internet issues I have had my whole life, through many houses and tech but this is about a certain issue. The last 4 months or so I have been loosing connection, for a short period of time, back up, down, back up, down for awhile........back up and usually good for a day after that. Repeat. It's quite annoying. Now from what I can tell except for one time, this issue is only me and my computer, not the other ones in the house. Today it was one of the days where it worked untill an hour ago, lost connection. It's been about an hour and a half of no connection, I restarted and turned off the router and modem 20 times in 20 different ways, no luck. I changed the cables from my 360 and my computer around to see if that would help, both dead. The internet is working upstairs on the rest of the computers. So do ethernet cables die? How would I test that, or maybe my ethernet port is dead? I doubt 2 cables that I am using would die at the same time, I also did try both of the cables directly into the modem same issue. This is very weird. Any ideas? Thanks.

October 6th, 2009	Top \| #2
Dark Atheist I never said I was nice Joined: April 2003 Location: In The Void Posts: 6,346 Blog Entries: 8 Reputation: 1877 Power: 0	Re: Wired Connection Fail yes Ethernet cables can become faulty, more over the ends (connectors) can ware if you connect/disconnect a lot of times. Get some new ones and see if that sorts it out, if not there are other gremlins lurking in your pc

October 6th, 2009	Top \| #3
Bman OSNN Designer Joined: July 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 8,700 Blog Entries: 106 Reputation: 1386 Power: 218	Re: Wired Connection Fail I will hoping be going to pick up some new cables. I don't suppose doing something with my network drivers would help, my friend insists on trying to install/reinstall those drivers, they are on board and I don't think I have ever installed/reinstalled them before, just basic windows drivers. I just did the simplistic thing ever, I rebooted and it seems to be working. Now I still don't trust it because the connection has been crap for awhile now and my cables are quite old. I am assuming it will go down again, either for a few seconds or awhile, I don't know. Any ideas guys, what could be causing connection lost like this? If it's not the cables, is drivers all that are left?

October 6th, 2009	Top \| #4
Dark Atheist I never said I was nice Joined: April 2003 Location: In The Void Posts: 6,346 Blog Entries: 8 Reputation: 1877 Power: 0	Re: Wired Connection Fail updated drivers may solve your issue, but then again it may not, although it never hurts to have the latest drivers, if the latest drivers and new cables don't help then it could be the card itself

October 6th, 2009	Top \| #5
Bman OSNN Designer Joined: July 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 8,700 Blog Entries: 106 Reputation: 1386 Power: 218	Re: Wired Connection Fail I just installed the latest nForce drivers. Let's see what happens.

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October 6th, 2009	Top \| #6
Dark Atheist I never said I was nice Joined: April 2003 Location: In The Void Posts: 6,346 Blog Entries: 8 Reputation: 1877 Power: 0	Re: Wired Connection Fail you didn't install the nvidia firewall did you? that has been known to cause a few issues

October 6th, 2009	Top \| #7
Bman OSNN Designer Joined: July 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 8,700 Blog Entries: 106 Reputation: 1386 Power: 218	Re: Wired Connection Fail No of course not. There were only 2 options in the install, ethernet and storage drivers. So I assume I didn't install any firewall.

October 6th, 2009	Top \| #8
Terrahertz Extinction Agenda Joined: April 2002 Location: New York Posts: 968 Reputation: 294 Power: 131	Re: Wired Connection Fail Any luck Bman? INSTALLATION & ADMINISTRATION

October 6th, 2009	Top \| #9
Bman OSNN Designer Joined: July 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 8,700 Blog Entries: 106 Reputation: 1386 Power: 218	Re: Wired Connection Fail Well as I said, I rebooted and it worked. But as I said in the first post, it goes a day or a bit without issues, and then has the up and down issues. So I am giving it a day and a half to see what happens. Will post back after that. Thanks.

October 6th, 2009	Top \| #10
bush dogg OSNN Senior Addict Joined: January 2004 Location: Kansas Posts: 431 Reputation: 590 Power: 108	Re: Wired Connection Fail I had that problem on a few XP systems a long time ago, if I remember right a couple of them reinstalling the drivers solved the problem but on one it was a power problem (I think) because I went into the properties, power management and unchecked the box to turn the device off to save power and it worked flawless from there on. In XP navigate to device manager, expand network adapters select your network device and right click then select properties, select the power management tab then at “allow the computer to turn off this device to save power” see if it’s checked if so then uncheck it OK it and see if that helps. One thing to note the system with the power problem would have to be rebooted quite often to restore the network until the above was unchecked.

October 7th, 2009	Top \| #11
Bman OSNN Designer Joined: July 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 8,700 Blog Entries: 106 Reputation: 1386 Power: 218	Re: Wired Connection Fail I don't think it was a power issue but that option was selected so I did uncheck it. Thanks for the info. As I said, I will post back in a day or so to see what happens.

October 7th, 2009	Top \| #12
Terrahertz Extinction Agenda Joined: April 2002 Location: New York Posts: 968 Reputation: 294 Power: 131	Re: Wired Connection Fail I say get a new NIC or this could have been caused by a Windows update back when it started. INSTALLATION & ADMINISTRATION

October 13th, 2009	Top \| #13
Bman OSNN Designer Joined: July 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 8,700 Blog Entries: 106 Reputation: 1386 Power: 218	Re: Wired Connection Fail 6 Days ago I rebooted and my internet started to work again. That was after installing new drivers and such. So I thought I might have fixed it. It just stopped working. This time I think hey let's try rebooting, and of course it fixed it again. Now this is another issue that started I think a couple days ago, but I think is related, when I shutdown to reboot, i get to the black screen with text, where the memory test and all that happens, and it freezes, i hit the reset button twice, same, the third time it boots into windows. So what the heck is going on.. Takes 3 hard resets to boot into windows. Internet connection fails after 3-6 days, fixed by a reboot.

October 13th, 2009	Top \| #14
American Zombie OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: June 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,848 Reputation: 2689 Power: 147	Re: Wired Connection Fail Have you looked in event viewer? Info about connection up or down time and why would be in there. If Windows has no info about the problem then you should suspect the router so look at the logs for it.

October 13th, 2009	Top \| #15
Bman OSNN Designer Joined: July 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 8,700 Blog Entries: 106 Reputation: 1386 Power: 218	Re: Wired Connection Fail I am going to look at that now. And it's not the router, everything else using the internet in the house is working. And the router is new. Brb with details on the event viewer, but assuming it will say nothing. *edit, nothing in the Event Viewer. When I rebooted this time, and it fixed it. It lasted about 30 minutes I think. This time I found the "Identify & Repair Network Problems" wizard, and it fixed it. It said something about resetting the adapter. I assume this is a temporary fix just like rebooting. I will let you know.

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American Zombie OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: June 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,848 Reputation: 2689 Power: 147	Re: Wired Connection Fail Are you using onboard NIC or a card? I had a motherboard once that the onboard did the same thing as your problem so I disabled it and purchased a network card.

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Bman OSNN Designer Joined: July 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 8,700 Blog Entries: 106 Reputation: 1386 Power: 218	Re: Wired Connection Fail Yes its onboard. I don't exactly have money to spare for a new NIC, unless I am 100% sure that its a dead/issue filled onboard nic card. *it was loosing connection every couple minutes since the last time I said. Seems to be worse when I am downloading, maxing my connection. So makes sense there is something wrong with my onboard nic, but how to be sure.

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Bman OSNN Designer Joined: July 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 8,700 Blog Entries: 106 Reputation: 1386 Power: 218	Re: Wired Connection Fail Getting quite annoying, I am paying for a newsgroup service I can't really use because when I am downloading at max, EIRJIEROJERJER DEAD! I have to restart and try, sometimes I can download for 30 minutes, sometimes only 5. WTF!!! Going to see if I can find my mother board for cheap..but new... edit still expensive from stores, not much better on ebay http://www.shopbot.ca/pp-evga-nforce...ice-99099.html *edit Also, what is the cheapest best quality NIC card you can get? I mean like $60 or less lol

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Dark Atheist I never said I was nice Joined: April 2003 Location: In The Void Posts: 6,346 Blog Entries: 8 Reputation: 1877 Power: 0	Re: Wired Connection Fail all pretty much the same, some will say netgear others something else

October 25th, 2009	Top \| #20
Bman OSNN Designer Joined: July 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 8,700 Blog Entries: 106 Reputation: 1386 Power: 218	Re: Wired Connection Fail So I didn't end up getting any new card, yet. Today I lost connection, and have not got it back. I was using the Repair tool and that would fix it till the next time, that didn't work. The internet in the house is working as always, just mine is dead. I can actually see and access the network, just no internet. I removed drivers, updated drivers, reinstalled drivers, changed ports on my computer, checked DNS settings, all the router tricks, etc. No luck. I have network access, no internet access, I am the only one. Ideas? If I can have network access then its not the card right?