New Pre-N blekin router problems

**mlakrid** · November 23rd, 2006

Hey Guys well I dont know where this thread really should have been entered seing as how the main problem I am having with this router is with Counter Strike Source... at first I thought it was the new CSS update they just ran (because they had screwed up my install before with an update) so I uninstalled and re-installed the game.

I can not switch from weapon to weapon or walk three steps without getting set back two ....

this is driving me insane I have checked all of my settings in-game and they are how they were when I was using my old Linksys router..

ALL of these problems started afetr I removed the linksys and setup my new PRE-N Belkin...
has anyopne seen this kind of problem before??

I am headed back to google to see if I can dig up a fix... post here if you find something first and HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

**LeeJend** · November 23rd, 2006

Did you get all the ports opened that CSS needs?

Try setting the router to DMZ for your game machine and see if the problem clears up. If it does fix it it's just a matter of port forwarding, if the router can handle the number of ports requried. Some routers choke when you open too many ports which produces an effect like internet lag.

Then there was MS. They were selling routers that were incompatible with their own MSN gaming network a few years ago...

PS Try the old linksys too to make sure it really is not an install issue. When they updated CSS they may have changed the server side code also affecting operation through routers.

**Tuffgong4** · November 24th, 2006

www.portforward.com

check for your router and the game for what ports to open.

**mlakrid** · November 26th, 2006

Thanks for the suggestions guys, I tried Tuffgong's suggestion, as I had already tried LeeJends... still no luck

Anymore Ideas???

I have already uninstalled and re-installed the app..

Still NO luck

Ill be waiting...

**American Zombie** · November 26th, 2006

Try a direct connection from modem to PC without any router as this will tell you where the problem is. If OK with direct connection then some setting in router is not right or router is hosed. If messed up when directly connected then it is something with Steam.

**Kush** · November 27th, 2006

i think maybe even though u uninstalled the game and reinstalled it, that doesnt mean it cleans out all the registry entries etc, try deleting all entries from the registry and cleaning out any folders it installs to, and then reinstalling it, i bet it will work, some programs you have to end up doing this, if not, and it is really your belkin router then check if theres a firmware update, but i doubt its the router

**LeeJend** · November 27th, 2006

Yeah, if DMZ didn't help then either it's a game bug or that particular router has problem.

Run a DSL reports test through that router and see if the speed, packet loss etc is correct. If it is then it's a Staem issue.

**mlakrid** · November 27th, 2006

I connected directly to the router as AZ suggested, the game runs fine, I now know it is a router problem...

**Tuffgong4** · November 30th, 2006

I'm surprised opening up the ports on the router didn't work. One time I set up the IP addresses wrong so it wasn't seeing my computer. I do a range now (like 192.168.0.100-192.168.0.110) that solved my problem with the firewall and also got a much lower ping when playing css. Also making sure the firewall is open always makes a difference. I set it up once for only certain periods of time and it didn't work when I wanted it too.

**falconguard** · November 30th, 2006

try disabling anonymous Internet requests and check your filters. i.e., ident port 113

**mlakrid** · November 30th, 2006

Originally Posted by Tuffgong4

I'm surprised opening up the ports on the router didn't work. One time I set up the IP addresses wrong so it wasn't seeing my computer. I do a range now (like 192.168.0.100-192.168.0.110) that solved my problem with the firewall and also got a much lower ping when playing css. Also making sure the firewall is open always makes a difference. I set it up once for only certain periods of time and it didn't work when I wanted it too.

I went as far as turning the firewall OFF, but still no change, it is VERY weird the game will play... but like I said earlier I cant kill anyone because I lag so hard.. I take 2 steps forward and then one step back...

This is SOO frustrating...

**mlakrid** · November 30th, 2006

Originally Posted by falconguard

try disabling anonymous Internet requests and check your filters. i.e., ident port 113

Hmmm I dont remember seeing this as a setting but when I get home I supose I will look at it...

In the meanwhile... if any of you think of anything... please let me know!

I will be on vacation from the 2nd to the 9th of December and will begin checking emails and my newsgroups then

Mike A!

**American Zombie** · November 30th, 2006

You should only need to disable anonymous Internet requests if you were creating and running a server but just connecting to one it should not matter. Default Linksys setting would have had anonymous Internet requests blocked and you said you had no problems with it. You said you turned off the firewall and DMZ'ed with no affect so I do not think it is port filtering either.

What firmware does router have?

Latest I see for that router is 1.01.03

Are you trying to play the game through the wired or wireless part of the router?

**mlakrid** · November 30th, 2006

1) I dont remember the latest firmware version but I used the "check firmware version" in the router config and it said I have the latest version
2) Wired... thats how I knew it was a router issue, if I connect straight through the cable modem no issues...

**American Zombie** · November 30th, 2006

The "home" page of router setting will show the firmware version.

How are downloads with the router connected?

Try a big file and see what happens like if the transfer rate fluctuates a lot > SP2

With Steam running click on this link and it will tell you if your ports are open for Steam:

Steam Connection Test

Psyborg · November 30th, 2006

hope this helps?

http://egopoly.com/2006/04/04/belkin...ounter-strike/

**mlakrid** · November 30th, 2006

Originally Posted by Psyborg

hope this helps?

http://egopoly.com/2006/04/04/belkin...ounter-strike/

This is EXACTLY what is happening.. I know that for sure, since it kept stating DOS <-- (abbreviated) UDP packet ###

and then more information and it would halt the connection and start over and over...

I will try this and see what happens..

Thanks!
Reps +!

November 23rd, 2006	Top \| #1
mlakrid OSNN BASSMASTER Joined: February 2005 Location: Land O Lakes, YES, JUST LIKE the CHEESE! Posts: 2,342 Reputation: 1410 Power: 138	New Pre-N blekin router problems Hey Guys well I dont know where this thread really should have been entered seing as how the main problem I am having with this router is with Counter Strike Source... at first I thought it was the new CSS update they just ran (because they had screwed up my install before with an update) so I uninstalled and re-installed the game. I can not switch from weapon to weapon or walk three steps without getting set back two .... this is driving me insane I have checked all of my settings in-game and they are how they were when I was using my old Linksys router.. ALL of these problems started afetr I removed the linksys and setup my new PRE-N Belkin... has anyopne seen this kind of problem before?? I am headed back to google to see if I can dig up a fix... post here if you find something first and HAPPY THANKSGIVING! Quote: "Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity." R.I.P. the best comedian of our time; GEORGE CARLIN.

November 23rd, 2006	Top \| #2
LeeJend OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: January 2003 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 5,289 Reputation: 3386 Power: 211	Re: New Pre-N blekin router problems Did you get all the ports opened that CSS needs? Try setting the router to DMZ for your game machine and see if the problem clears up. If it does fix it it's just a matter of port forwarding, if the router can handle the number of ports requried. Some routers choke when you open too many ports which produces an effect like internet lag. Then there was MS. They were selling routers that were incompatible with their own MSN gaming network a few years ago... PS Try the old linksys too to make sure it really is not an install issue. When they updated CSS they may have changed the server side code also affecting operation through routers. Thought for the new millenium: In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? - Open Office - Firefox - Thunderbird - Gimp -Ubuntu - Red Hat -

November 24th, 2006	Top \| #3
Tuffgong4 The Donger Need Food!!!! Joined: June 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,465 Reputation: 840 Power: 166	Re: New Pre-N blekin router problems www.portforward.com check for your router and the game for what ports to open. Home Intel E6600 \ Abit AB9 Pro \ 4 gig Corsair DDR2-667 \ EVGA 9800GT \ HDD 1 320GB sata + 1 1.5TB sata \ 1 1TB backup drive / Samsung S183L SATA DVD-RW \ Windows 7 Pro x64 Laptop Asus UL30VT\ Intel CULV SU7300 \ 4GB Ram \ Intel Integrated + Nvidia 200m \ 500GB HDD \ 13.3 inch LED \ Windows 7 Premium x64

November 26th, 2006	Top \| #4
mlakrid OSNN BASSMASTER Joined: February 2005 Location: Land O Lakes, YES, JUST LIKE the CHEESE! Posts: 2,342 Reputation: 1410 Power: 138	Re: New Pre-N blekin router problems Thanks for the suggestions guys, I tried Tuffgong's suggestion, as I had already tried LeeJends... still no luck Anymore Ideas??? I have already uninstalled and re-installed the app.. Still NO luck Ill be waiting... Quote: "Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity." R.I.P. the best comedian of our time; GEORGE CARLIN.

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American Zombie OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: June 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,899 Reputation: 2689 Power: 163	Re: New Pre-N belkin router problems Try a direct connection from modem to PC without any router as this will tell you where the problem is. If OK with direct connection then some setting in router is not right or router is hosed. If messed up when directly connected then it is something with Steam.

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November 27th, 2006	Top \| #6
Kush High On Life! Joined: January 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 4,590 Reputation: 1300 Power: 197	Re: New Pre-N blekin router problems i think maybe even though u uninstalled the game and reinstalled it, that doesnt mean it cleans out all the registry entries etc, try deleting all entries from the registry and cleaning out any folders it installs to, and then reinstalling it, i bet it will work, some programs you have to end up doing this, if not, and it is really your belkin router then check if theres a firmware update, but i doubt its the router If Someones post is helpful or makes you laugh, reward the person by clicking on this button--->

November 27th, 2006	Top \| #7
LeeJend OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: January 2003 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 5,289 Reputation: 3386 Power: 211	Re: New Pre-N blekin router problems Yeah, if DMZ didn't help then either it's a game bug or that particular router has problem. Run a DSL reports test through that router and see if the speed, packet loss etc is correct. If it is then it's a Staem issue. Thought for the new millenium: In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? - Open Office - Firefox - Thunderbird - Gimp -Ubuntu - Red Hat -

November 27th, 2006	Top \| #8
mlakrid OSNN BASSMASTER Joined: February 2005 Location: Land O Lakes, YES, JUST LIKE the CHEESE! Posts: 2,342 Reputation: 1410 Power: 138	Re: New Pre-N blekin router problems I connected directly to the router as AZ suggested, the game runs fine, I now know it is a router problem... Quote: "Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity." R.I.P. the best comedian of our time; GEORGE CARLIN.

November 30th, 2006	Top \| #9
Tuffgong4 The Donger Need Food!!!! Joined: June 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,465 Reputation: 840 Power: 166	Re: New Pre-N blekin router problems I'm surprised opening up the ports on the router didn't work. One time I set up the IP addresses wrong so it wasn't seeing my computer. I do a range now (like 192.168.0.100-192.168.0.110) that solved my problem with the firewall and also got a much lower ping when playing css. Also making sure the firewall is open always makes a difference. I set it up once for only certain periods of time and it didn't work when I wanted it too. Home Intel E6600 \ Abit AB9 Pro \ 4 gig Corsair DDR2-667 \ EVGA 9800GT \ HDD 1 320GB sata + 1 1.5TB sata \ 1 1TB backup drive / Samsung S183L SATA DVD-RW \ Windows 7 Pro x64 Laptop Asus UL30VT\ Intel CULV SU7300 \ 4GB Ram \ Intel Integrated + Nvidia 200m \ 500GB HDD \ 13.3 inch LED \ Windows 7 Premium x64

November 30th, 2006	Top \| #10
falconguard Carbon based lifeform Joined: February 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,406 Reputation: 2305 Power: 171	Re: New Pre-N blekin router problems try disabling anonymous Internet requests and check your filters. i.e., ident port 113

November 30th, 2006	Top \| #11
mlakrid OSNN BASSMASTER Joined: February 2005 Location: Land O Lakes, YES, JUST LIKE the CHEESE! Posts: 2,342 Reputation: 1410 Power: 138	Re: New Pre-N blekin router problems Originally Posted by Tuffgong4 I'm surprised opening up the ports on the router didn't work. One time I set up the IP addresses wrong so it wasn't seeing my computer. I do a range now (like 192.168.0.100-192.168.0.110) that solved my problem with the firewall and also got a much lower ping when playing css. Also making sure the firewall is open always makes a difference. I set it up once for only certain periods of time and it didn't work when I wanted it too. I went as far as turning the firewall OFF, but still no change, it is VERY weird the game will play... but like I said earlier I cant kill anyone because I lag so hard.. I take 2 steps forward and then one step back... This is SOO frustrating... Quote: "Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity." R.I.P. the best comedian of our time; GEORGE CARLIN.

November 30th, 2006	Top \| #12
mlakrid OSNN BASSMASTER Joined: February 2005 Location: Land O Lakes, YES, JUST LIKE the CHEESE! Posts: 2,342 Reputation: 1410 Power: 138	Re: New Pre-N blekin router problems Originally Posted by falconguard try disabling anonymous Internet requests and check your filters. i.e., ident port 113 Hmmm I dont remember seeing this as a setting but when I get home I supose I will look at it... In the meanwhile... if any of you think of anything... please let me know! I will be on vacation from the 2nd to the 9th of December and will begin checking emails and my newsgroups then Mike A! Quote: "Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity." R.I.P. the best comedian of our time; GEORGE CARLIN.

November 30th, 2006	Top \| #13
American Zombie OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: June 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,899 Reputation: 2689 Power: 163	Re: New Pre-N blekin router problems You should only need to disable anonymous Internet requests if you were creating and running a server but just connecting to one it should not matter. Default Linksys setting would have had anonymous Internet requests blocked and you said you had no problems with it. You said you turned off the firewall and DMZ'ed with no affect so I do not think it is port filtering either. What firmware does router have? Latest I see for that router is 1.01.03 Are you trying to play the game through the wired or wireless part of the router?

November 30th, 2006	Top \| #14
mlakrid OSNN BASSMASTER Joined: February 2005 Location: Land O Lakes, YES, JUST LIKE the CHEESE! Posts: 2,342 Reputation: 1410 Power: 138	Re: New Pre-N blekin router problems 1) I dont remember the latest firmware version but I used the "check firmware version" in the router config and it said I have the latest version 2) Wired... thats how I knew it was a router issue, if I connect straight through the cable modem no issues... Quote: "Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity." R.I.P. the best comedian of our time; GEORGE CARLIN.

November 30th, 2006	Top \| #15
American Zombie OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: June 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,899 Reputation: 2689 Power: 163	Belkin not blekin The "home" page of router setting will show the firmware version. How are downloads with the router connected? Try a big file and see what happens like if the transfer rate fluctuates a lot > SP2 With Steam running click on this link and it will tell you if your ports are open for Steam: Steam Connection Test

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mlakrid OSNN BASSMASTER Joined: February 2005 Location: Land O Lakes, YES, JUST LIKE the CHEESE! Posts: 2,342 Reputation: 1410 Power: 138	Re: New Pre-N blekin router problems Originally Posted by Psyborg hope this helps? http://egopoly.com/2006/04/04/belkin...ounter-strike/ This is EXACTLY what is happening.. I know that for sure, since it kept stating DOS <-- (abbreviated) UDP packet ### and then more information and it would halt the connection and start over and over... I will try this and see what happens.. Thanks! Reps +! Quote: "Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity." R.I.P. the best comedian of our time; GEORGE CARLIN.