The BEST Wireless Router - Page 2

**lancer** · June 28th, 2006

well if they have thats great.... and i totally forgot about 3com, thats all i used to use until i found netgear, shame on me haha

**kcnychief** · June 28th, 2006

I am a big fan of the WRT54G myself, really solid hardware.

Muzi, are you sure you want to go with the Pre-N stuff? Last I knew that line was a bit risky as the standards are far from being finalized.

**ming** · June 28th, 2006

Originally Posted by kcnychief

I am a big fan of the WRT54G myself, really solid hardware.

Muzi, are you sure you want to go with the Pre-N stuff? Last I knew that line was a bit risky as the standards are far from being finalized.

Read that the newer versions are really dodgey, especially V5/6.

**kcnychief** · June 28th, 2006

I have deployed many v6 routers without any issues, 4 in the past week alone

**ElementalDragon** · June 28th, 2006

Linksys also has a Pre-N router out now...... though i honestly think at this point i'd trust the Belkin..... seeing as how the Belkin Pre-N router has been out for quite a long time (at least a year i think) and has had plenty of time to have possible bugs worked out of it. Plus, the Linksys Pre-N router just looks flat out weird.

**LeeJend** · June 29th, 2006

Remember, if you buy a pre-N just don't expect it to ever work at N speeds with any other brand NIC card or laptop with built in wireless.

The reviews I saw this spring on the pre-N hardware were all pretty bad. Nowhere near the range or speed improvements N is supposed to offer.

So don't pick a router based on "N" performance. At this time I'd go with the cheapest "G" I could find and save the rest of the money for N if it ever comes out.

Personal results top to bottom:
Linksys (Pricey)
Netgear
Dlink (wimpy range)

Have not used a 3Com. I think 3Com got bought by one of the other biggies in the last year. They may not be available anymore.

**kcnychief** · June 29th, 2006

That's not entirely fair though, as N hasn't officially been approved as a spec. Although there are standards, nothing is set in stone yet and could change if/when it ever gets approved.

Still at least a year off, if not more.

**muzikool** · June 29th, 2006

Originally Posted by kcnychief

I am a big fan of the WRT54G myself, really solid hardware.

Muzi, are you sure you want to go with the Pre-N stuff? Last I knew that line was a bit risky as the standards are far from being finalized.

Originally Posted by LeeJend

Remember, if you buy a pre-N just don't expect it to ever work at N speeds with any other brand NIC card or laptop with built in wireless.

The reviews I saw this spring on the pre-N hardware were all pretty bad. Nowhere near the range or speed improvements N is supposed to offer.

So don't pick a router based on "N" performance. At this time I'd go with the cheapest "G" I could find and save the rest of the money for N if it ever comes out.

Personal results top to bottom:
Linksys (Pricey)
Netgear
Dlink (wimpy range)

Have not used a 3Com. I think 3Com got bought by one of the other biggies in the last year. They may not be available anymore.

Originally Posted by kcnychief

That's not entirely fair though, as N hasn't officially been approved as a spec. Although there are standards, nothing is set in stone yet and could change if/when it ever gets approved.

Still at least a year off, if not more.

As I posted on the last page...

Reviews:
PC Magazine Review - 4/5 Stars
Laptop Magazine Review - 4.5/5 Stars (Editor's Choice)
CNET Review - 8.4/10

For those who might say that adopting an unset standard is a bad idea...

Forget all the nonsense about the Belkin Pre-N Router being "non-standard." When it runs faster than everything else, including with regular 802.11b and g clients, and offers triple the range, who cares if the high-speed mode isn't Wi-Fi certified? Certainly not us. It was the first home-oriented router to cover our entire house and yard, with no dead spots. It even gave speedy performance and reliable connections at the farthest reaches, rather than dropping down to snail's pace, as with normal Wi-Fi routers.

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**kcnychief** · June 29th, 2006

Oh I have read the reviews and know the quality of the product, my personal stand is that I'm just going to stay away from it until the standards are passed. It's kind of like using Vista as a full time OS right now, sure there are pros to it but fact of the matter is I wouldn't use it full time within a production environment at this time.

That, plus you have to purchase compatible wireless cards, whereas if you have a network with laptops already having A/B/G cards, that increases your TCO.

pokerblogger · June 29th, 2006

Wow! Thanks for all the replies, didn't expect so many opinions.

Given everyone's advice I guess I'll hang onto the WRT54G for a while longer. Seems to still be a favorite.

**muzikool** · June 29th, 2006

Originally Posted by kcnychief

That, plus you have to purchase compatible wireless cards, whereas if you have a network with laptops already having A/B/G cards, that increases your TCO.

No, you can use your existing card. Buying a Pre-N card only enhances your signal strength across longer distances.

**kcnychief** · June 29th, 2006

Originally Posted by pokerblogger

Wow! Thanks for all the replies, didn't expect so many opinions.

Given everyone's advice I guess I'll hang onto the WRT54G for a while longer. Seems to still be a favorite.

We are a very opinionated bunch here

Originally Posted by muzikool

No, you can use your existing card. Buying a Pre-N card only enhances your signal strength across longer distances.

Bit of a waste of money though isn't it? If you use a A/B/G card with a Pre-N router, you aren't getting the full benefit. That, plus if you have a B and a G device in use, it's all the way down to B and it's even more of a wash for your cash. Better signal strength, but most of the routers I have worked with don't really have those issues anyways.

What's the cost differences on the routers?

answ3r · July 5th, 2006

Hi,
I am looking for some advice in acquiring a wireless router. The main features I am looking for are:

Speed ( video, music)
Range ( needs to be able to cover distances)
Reliability
Security
Call in one

I have looked into the Belkin pre-n but I would like some advice before I made any decision

Thanks

answ3r · July 5th, 2006

what is the disadvanatges of getting a belkin pre n
from what i have been reading it seems to cover big distances without too much problems. is this the router to transmit all sorts of data (music, video) over big distances?

**perris** · July 5th, 2006

take a look here

**madmatt** · July 5th, 2006

Threads merged.

**Electronic Punk** · July 8th, 2006

http://www.netgear.co.uk/extra/h_ran...ter_dg834n.php

Got it today, still says coming soon tho.
So far so good.

**dreamliner77** · July 9th, 2006

Another vote for the WRT54G(S). Yeah, I have the S but I don't use the speedbooster. Just a solid G router. I've updated the firmware 3 times without a hitch.

**Mainframeguy** · July 10th, 2006

Originally Posted by perris

take a look here

careful now! Can a mod remove this post or else can Perris edit it with a warning, because I am looping here

acstua · July 10th, 2006

Originally Posted by ElementalDragon

and yet surprisingly Netgear doesn't allow you to play some games? seriously..... try playing Gunz: The Duel Online with a netgear router..... 99.9% sure you won't be able to..... even in their forums they say Netgear routers and Gunz don't get along. Gunz uses a type of connection that the Netgear router don't support.

um ive played Gunz, admitedly not for long heh, but i played it online and i have a netgear router

June 28th, 2006	Top \| #21
lancer There is no answer! Joined: October 2004 Location: FL, USA Posts: 3,087 Blog Entries: 3 Reputation: 1430 Power: 137	Re: The BEST Wireless Router well if they have thats great.... and i totally forgot about 3com, thats all i used to use until i found netgear, shame on me haha "The world has just got smaller now, but people have got further away."

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kcnychief █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Joined: April 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,949 Reputation: 4941 Power: 305	Re: The BEST Wireless Router I am a big fan of the WRT54G myself, really solid hardware. Muzi, are you sure you want to go with the Pre-N stuff? Last I knew that line was a bit risky as the standards are far from being finalized. XBOX Live Gamertag: kcnychief

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ming OSNN Advanced Joined: June 2003 Location: UK Posts: 4,252 Reputation: 1160 Power: 162	Re: The BEST Wireless Router Originally Posted by kcnychief I am a big fan of the WRT54G myself, really solid hardware. Muzi, are you sure you want to go with the Pre-N stuff? Last I knew that line was a bit risky as the standards are far from being finalized. Read that the newer versions are really dodgey, especially V5/6. Curent system: Intel Quad Core 9450 \| 4GB RAM \| WD Raptor 36GB \| nVidia 8800GT 512mb

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kcnychief █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Joined: April 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,949 Reputation: 4941 Power: 305	Re: The BEST Wireless Router I have deployed many v6 routers without any issues, 4 in the past week alone XBOX Live Gamertag: kcnychief

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ElementalDragon The One and Only Joined: August 2002 Location: Lehighton, PA Posts: 3,160 Blog Entries: 3 Reputation: 1095 Power: 161	Re: The BEST Wireless Router Linksys also has a Pre-N router out now...... though i honestly think at this point i'd trust the Belkin..... seeing as how the Belkin Pre-N router has been out for quite a long time (at least a year i think) and has had plenty of time to have possible bugs worked out of it. Plus, the Linksys Pre-N router just looks flat out weird. Core 2 Quad Q9450 \| 4GB DDR2 800 \| Abit IP-35 Pro \| eVGA GTX 295+ I Love Windows 7! Has my post been helpful to you? If so, please click the to the left to add to my reputation.

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June 29th, 2006	Top \| #26
LeeJend OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: January 2003 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 5,261 Reputation: 3386 Power: 199	Re: The BEST Wireless Router Remember, if you buy a pre-N just don't expect it to ever work at N speeds with any other brand NIC card or laptop with built in wireless. The reviews I saw this spring on the pre-N hardware were all pretty bad. Nowhere near the range or speed improvements N is supposed to offer. So don't pick a router based on "N" performance. At this time I'd go with the cheapest "G" I could find and save the rest of the money for N if it ever comes out. Personal results top to bottom: Linksys (Pricey) Netgear Dlink (wimpy range) Have not used a 3Com. I think 3Com got bought by one of the other biggies in the last year. They may not be available anymore. Thought for the new millenium: In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? - Open Office - Firefox - Thunderbird - Gimp -Ubuntu - Red Hat -

June 29th, 2006	Top \| #27
kcnychief █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Joined: April 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,949 Reputation: 4941 Power: 305	Re: The BEST Wireless Router That's not entirely fair though, as N hasn't officially been approved as a spec. Although there are standards, nothing is set in stone yet and could change if/when it ever gets approved. Still at least a year off, if not more. XBOX Live Gamertag: kcnychief

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muzikool Act your wage. Joined: December 2001 Location: Texas, USA Reputation: Yes, please. Posts: 7,626 Reputation: 2900 Power: 232	Re: The BEST Wireless Router Originally Posted by kcnychief I am a big fan of the WRT54G myself, really solid hardware. Muzi, are you sure you want to go with the Pre-N stuff? Last I knew that line was a bit risky as the standards are far from being finalized. Originally Posted by LeeJend Remember, if you buy a pre-N just don't expect it to ever work at N speeds with any other brand NIC card or laptop with built in wireless. The reviews I saw this spring on the pre-N hardware were all pretty bad. Nowhere near the range or speed improvements N is supposed to offer. So don't pick a router based on "N" performance. At this time I'd go with the cheapest "G" I could find and save the rest of the money for N if it ever comes out. Personal results top to bottom: Linksys (Pricey) Netgear Dlink (wimpy range) Have not used a 3Com. I think 3Com got bought by one of the other biggies in the last year. They may not be available anymore. Originally Posted by kcnychief That's not entirely fair though, as N hasn't officially been approved as a spec. Although there are standards, nothing is set in stone yet and could change if/when it ever gets approved. Still at least a year off, if not more. As I posted on the last page... Reviews: PC Magazine Review - 4/5 Stars Laptop Magazine Review - 4.5/5 Stars (Editor's Choice) CNET Review - 8.4/10 For those who might say that adopting an unset standard is a bad idea... Forget all the nonsense about the Belkin Pre-N Router being "non-standard." When it runs faster than everything else, including with regular 802.11b and g clients, and offers triple the range, who cares if the high-speed mode isn't Wi-Fi certified? Certainly not us. It was the first home-oriented router to cover our entire house and yard, with no dead spots. It even gave speedy performance and reliable connections at the farthest reaches, rather than dropping down to snail's pace, as with normal Wi-Fi routers. Source

June 29th, 2006	Top \| #29
kcnychief █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Joined: April 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,949 Reputation: 4941 Power: 305	Re: The BEST Wireless Router Oh I have read the reviews and know the quality of the product, my personal stand is that I'm just going to stay away from it until the standards are passed. It's kind of like using Vista as a full time OS right now, sure there are pros to it but fact of the matter is I wouldn't use it full time within a production environment at this time. That, plus you have to purchase compatible wireless cards, whereas if you have a network with laptops already having A/B/G cards, that increases your TCO. XBOX Live Gamertag: kcnychief

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pokerblogger OSNN Addict Joined: June 2006 Location: Portland Posts: 125 Reputation: 90 Power: 74	Re: The BEST Wireless Router Wow! Thanks for all the replies, didn't expect so many opinions. Given everyone's advice I guess I'll hang onto the WRT54G for a while longer. Seems to still be a favorite. MySpace Layouts \| Poker Blogger \| MySpace Awareness

June 29th, 2006	Top \| #31
muzikool Act your wage. Joined: December 2001 Location: Texas, USA Reputation: Yes, please. Posts: 7,626 Reputation: 2900 Power: 232	Re: The BEST Wireless Router Originally Posted by kcnychief That, plus you have to purchase compatible wireless cards, whereas if you have a network with laptops already having A/B/G cards, that increases your TCO. No, you can use your existing card. Buying a Pre-N card only enhances your signal strength across longer distances.

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kcnychief █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Joined: April 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,949 Reputation: 4941 Power: 305	Re: The BEST Wireless Router Originally Posted by pokerblogger Wow! Thanks for all the replies, didn't expect so many opinions. Given everyone's advice I guess I'll hang onto the WRT54G for a while longer. Seems to still be a favorite. We are a very opinionated bunch here Originally Posted by muzikool No, you can use your existing card. Buying a Pre-N card only enhances your signal strength across longer distances. Bit of a waste of money though isn't it? If you use a A/B/G card with a Pre-N router, you aren't getting the full benefit. That, plus if you have a B and a G device in use, it's all the way down to B and it's even more of a wash for your cash. Better signal strength, but most of the routers I have worked with don't really have those issues anyways. What's the cost differences on the routers? XBOX Live Gamertag: kcnychief

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answ3r OSNN Junior Addict Joined: July 2006 Posts: 5 Reputation: 0 Power: 72	Best Wireless Router 2006 Hi, I am looking for some advice in acquiring a wireless router. The main features I am looking for are: Speed ( video, music) Range ( needs to be able to cover distances) Reliability Security Call in one I have looked into the Belkin pre-n but I would like some advice before I made any decision Thanks

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answ3r OSNN Junior Addict Joined: July 2006 Posts: 5 Reputation: 0 Power: 72	Re: The BEST Wireless Router what is the disadvanatges of getting a belkin pre n from what i have been reading it seems to cover big distances without too much problems. is this the router to transmit all sorts of data (music, video) over big distances?

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acstua OSNN Junior Addict Joined: April 2004 Posts: 42 Reputation: 0 Power: 99	Re: The BEST Wireless Router Originally Posted by ElementalDragon and yet surprisingly Netgear doesn't allow you to play some games? seriously..... try playing Gunz: The Duel Online with a netgear router..... 99.9% sure you won't be able to..... even in their forums they say Netgear routers and Gunz don't get along. Gunz uses a type of connection that the Netgear router don't support. um ive played Gunz, admitedly not for long heh, but i played it online and i have a netgear router