Latitude D-420/620 and 820 discussion - Page 9

bcmull · May 18th, 2006

Forgive the ignorance, discrete means third party (i.e. Nvidia)?

**Sazar** · May 18th, 2006

Discrete means non-integrated.

**lancer** · May 18th, 2006

detached, disconnected.....

GEN3RIC · May 18th, 2006

Discrete = better!

I am still a week away from ordering a laptop with a budget of $2275 after taxes/shipping. Ive looked at everything from Sony's (For 1 minute), to Toshiba Satellites, Lenovo...but I keep coming back to the D820. Must be fate lol...

**Sazar** · May 19th, 2006

The IBM/Lenovo's and toshiba's are pretty good system.

Naturally I am partial to the Dell's but thats coz I have spent a lot more time with the new ones than I have with the competition.

Definitely a step up from the previous generation IMO.

GEN3RIC · May 19th, 2006

Im confident with Dell's quality now, I was not impressed with the D810 that my classmates are getting.... I have yet to physically hold a D820 and that bothers me because I am really concerned about build quality. This Acer Travelmate I looked at had a carbon fiber chassis and that sounds very structurally sound! I just don't want to end up with another Inspiron 8500 ... yes, it's officially old and worn out, but a month after getting it, the screen's hinges were messed up and there was a lot of play. The keyboard keys stick, the eraserhead has to be disabled or it'll walk the cursor all over at its own will.

Its those issues I hope they addressed, not to mention the heat issue.... :ugh: If you tell me it is light years ahead of the i8500 in terms of build quality, I will commit to the D820 right now! You have the experience with it, moreso than almost anybody else right now I think. Whats your call?

**Sazar** · May 19th, 2006

The old D 8xx series had a tri-metal chassis with plastic components. Helped keep the weight down.

The new 820 is a magnesium alloy, looks good and it is very sturdy from all demo's and drop tests I have seen.

It's not perfect, I have yet to see the perfect notebook, but it's very good all aorund.

It is indeed light-years ahead of the inspiron series

Definitely see if you can swing in a demo or a quick touch/feel session someplace.

GEN3RIC · May 19th, 2006

Where can I find a demo of a Dell though? I have yet to ever see an authorized reseller or Dell PC's, and I don't know anybody with a D820 yet.

Im fairly confident in the D820's sturdiness, but I really do think it would be a good idea to give em a test...

**Electronic Punk** · May 19th, 2006

Dell aren't in the shops

Can't speak for the 8xx series, but the 620 is alot better looking than the 600 or 610

**Sazar** · May 19th, 2006

Dell has kiosks in the USA. Occasionally they have a latitude on display, typically it is inspirons. However if you see the xps 1710, it has the same material for the chassis.

**Sazar** · May 19th, 2006

Okies, update.

The 420 will NOT have a discrete card, at least not initially.

Keep in mind the info I provided before was neither final nor 100% approved but this is the latest info I have.

The xps 1210 though WILL have the discrete card.

I was so looking forward to the 420 too

howcoza · May 24th, 2006

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone came right with the 3.5G setup on the Dell (just for the D620). Vodacom SA is 3.5 ready and working. I put my sim card in to the the laptop and installed the dell wirelles card reader application but does not give any options or software to setup to sim card. You have the same problem

Thanks
Bryan

**Electronic Punk** · May 24th, 2006

I was told the 3.5G would not be ready on the 620 until the end of this month.

You cna remove the keyboard and see if the addon board is there or not, or enter your tag and check machine configuration.

Although we stipulated we wanted the card on our demonstrators they didn't come.

The instructions say that we can fit the cards ourselves, but for some reason Dell want them back?

Might get the next set with NVIDIA cards.

Saz: the 420 doesn't have 3G? Not that I care as I don't use it tbh!

howcoza · May 24th, 2006

I have the following drivers installed how do i find out if i have the hardware with out opening the computer? Dell Wireless 5500 Mobile Broadband (3G HSDPA) Mini-Card. Do you think there is an extra charge for these cards because it says that it comes with it yeah?

**Sazar** · May 24th, 2006

Originally Posted by Electronic Punk

I was told the 3.5G would not be ready on the 620 until the end of this month.

You cna remove the keyboard and see if the addon board is there or not, or enter your tag and check machine configuration.

Although we stipulated we wanted the card on our demonstrators they didn't come.

The instructions say that we can fit the cards ourselves, but for some reason Dell want them back?

Might get the next set with NVIDIA cards.

Saz: the 420 doesn't have 3G? Not that I care as I don't use it tbh!

Dunno bout the 3G cards tbh. It's not something I care about so I haven't asked about it. Only comment on what I see in passing

**Electronic Punk** · May 25th, 2006

Originally Posted by howcoza

I have the following drivers installed how do i find out if i have the hardware with out opening the computer? Dell Wireless 5500 Mobile Broadband (3G HSDPA) Mini-Card. Do you think there is an extra charge for these cards because it says that it comes with it yeah?

Check device manager and see if its there, or even listed as a selection when creating a dial-up account.

Ours weren't at least.

bcmull · May 31st, 2006

Sazar-

I have my premier rep telling me that D420 is launching late summer. Is that true?

Bill

**Sazar** · May 31st, 2006

Yes. As far as I know.

The XPS 1210 debuted retail today.

maryamtahiryasin · June 1st, 2006

To Sazar,

I am on the verge of purchasing a Dell Latitude D820 or 620 but i need to know more information regarding the graphics card. Is the NVIDIA NVS 120M and 110M superior or inferior compared to the ATI Radeon X1300 and X1400 graphics that is in the Inspiron range. Is the NVIDIA good at 3d games such as WoW or Halflife 2? I need to know more about the cards because is the performace same as the ATI cards? also one more question the M65 model i already own the Quadro is better than the ATI Radeon X1300 and X1400? or is it similar in performace. It would be very helpful to know more about the cards as it will make my decision more easy. Also is Dell going to release an XPS model laptop with 15.4" widescreen so the brand can grow and continue?

**Sazar** · June 1st, 2006

Those are professional cards, you can't compare them to consumer cards.

Perhaps the performance will be about the same, or better in OGL situations but they products are not designed for gaming so it's really hard to say. The drivers are not optimized for dx and ogl games.

I am not sure if there are plans to currently release an XPS version of the e-1505. It's possible but I haven't heard anything.

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bcmull OSNN Junior Addict Joined: April 2006 Posts: 6 Reputation: 0 Power: 71	Re: New latitude D-420/620 and 820 and Inspiron discussion Forgive the ignorance, discrete means third party (i.e. Nvidia)?

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Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,880 Reputation: 4110 Power: 309	Re: New latitude D-420/620 and 820 and Inspiron discussion Discrete means non-integrated. Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

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lancer There is no answer! Joined: October 2004 Location: FL, USA Posts: 3,087 Blog Entries: 3 Reputation: 1430 Power: 134	Re: New latitude D-420/620 and 820 and Inspiron discussion detached, disconnected..... "The world has just got smaller now, but people have got further away."

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GEN3RIC OSNN Senior Addict Joined: April 2005 Location: Woodbury, MN Posts: 634 Reputation: 260 Power: 92	Re: New latitude D-420/620 and 820 and Inspiron discussion Discrete = better! I am still a week away from ordering a laptop with a budget of $2275 after taxes/shipping. Ive looked at everything from Sony's (For 1 minute), to Toshiba Satellites, Lenovo...but I keep coming back to the D820. Must be fate lol...

May 19th, 2006	Top \| #165
Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,880 Reputation: 4110 Power: 309	Re: New latitude D-420/620 and 820 and Inspiron discussion The IBM/Lenovo's and toshiba's are pretty good system. Naturally I am partial to the Dell's but thats coz I have spent a lot more time with the new ones than I have with the competition. Definitely a step up from the previous generation IMO. Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

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May 19th, 2006	Top \| #166
GEN3RIC OSNN Senior Addict Joined: April 2005 Location: Woodbury, MN Posts: 634 Reputation: 260 Power: 92	Re: New latitude D-420/620 and 820 and Inspiron discussion Im confident with Dell's quality now, I was not impressed with the D810 that my classmates are getting.... I have yet to physically hold a D820 and that bothers me because I am really concerned about build quality. This Acer Travelmate I looked at had a carbon fiber chassis and that sounds very structurally sound! I just don't want to end up with another Inspiron 8500 ... yes, it's officially old and worn out, but a month after getting it, the screen's hinges were messed up and there was a lot of play. The keyboard keys stick, the eraserhead has to be disabled or it'll walk the cursor all over at its own will. Its those issues I hope they addressed, not to mention the heat issue.... :ugh: If you tell me it is light years ahead of the i8500 in terms of build quality, I will commit to the D820 right now! You have the experience with it, moreso than almost anybody else right now I think. Whats your call?

May 19th, 2006	Top \| #167
Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,880 Reputation: 4110 Power: 309	Re: New latitude D-420/620 and 820 and Inspiron discussion The old D 8xx series had a tri-metal chassis with plastic components. Helped keep the weight down. The new 820 is a magnesium alloy, looks good and it is very sturdy from all demo's and drop tests I have seen. It's not perfect, I have yet to see the perfect notebook, but it's very good all aorund. It is indeed light-years ahead of the inspiron series Definitely see if you can swing in a demo or a quick touch/feel session someplace. Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

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GEN3RIC OSNN Senior Addict Joined: April 2005 Location: Woodbury, MN Posts: 634 Reputation: 260 Power: 92	Re: New latitude D-420/620 and 820 and Inspiron discussion Where can I find a demo of a Dell though? I have yet to ever see an authorized reseller or Dell PC's, and I don't know anybody with a D820 yet. Im fairly confident in the D820's sturdiness, but I really do think it would be a good idea to give em a test...

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Electronic Punk The Last High Joined: December 2001 Location: London Posts: 18,506 Blog Entries: 51 Reputation: 3652 Power: 346	Re: New latitude D-420/620 and 820 and Inspiron discussion Dell aren't in the shops Can't speak for the 8xx series, but the 620 is alot better looking than the 600 or 610

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Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,880 Reputation: 4110 Power: 309	Re: New latitude D-420/620 and 820 and Inspiron discussion Dell has kiosks in the USA. Occasionally they have a latitude on display, typically it is inspirons. However if you see the xps 1710, it has the same material for the chassis. Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

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Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,880 Reputation: 4110 Power: 309	Re: New latitude D-420/620 and 820 and Inspiron discussion Okies, update. The 420 will NOT have a discrete card, at least not initially. Keep in mind the info I provided before was neither final nor 100% approved but this is the latest info I have. The xps 1210 though WILL have the discrete card. I was so looking forward to the 420 too Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

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howcoza OSNN Junior Addict Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2 Reputation: 0 Power: 0	Re: New latitude D-420/620 and 820 and Inspiron discussion Hi, I was wondering if anyone came right with the 3.5G setup on the Dell (just for the D620). Vodacom SA is 3.5 ready and working. I put my sim card in to the the laptop and installed the dell wirelles card reader application but does not give any options or software to setup to sim card. You have the same problem Thanks Bryan

May 24th, 2006	Top \| #173
Electronic Punk The Last High Joined: December 2001 Location: London Posts: 18,506 Blog Entries: 51 Reputation: 3652 Power: 346	Re: New latitude D-420/620 and 820 and Inspiron discussion I was told the 3.5G would not be ready on the 620 until the end of this month. You cna remove the keyboard and see if the addon board is there or not, or enter your tag and check machine configuration. Although we stipulated we wanted the card on our demonstrators they didn't come. The instructions say that we can fit the cards ourselves, but for some reason Dell want them back? Might get the next set with NVIDIA cards. Saz: the 420 doesn't have 3G? Not that I care as I don't use it tbh!

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howcoza OSNN Junior Addict Joined: May 2006 Posts: 2 Reputation: 0 Power: 0	Re: New latitude D-420/620 and 820 and Inspiron discussion I have the following drivers installed how do i find out if i have the hardware with out opening the computer? Dell Wireless 5500 Mobile Broadband (3G HSDPA) Mini-Card. Do you think there is an extra charge for these cards because it says that it comes with it yeah?

May 24th, 2006	Top \| #175
Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,880 Reputation: 4110 Power: 309	Re: New latitude D-420/620 and 820 and Inspiron discussion Originally Posted by Electronic Punk I was told the 3.5G would not be ready on the 620 until the end of this month. You cna remove the keyboard and see if the addon board is there or not, or enter your tag and check machine configuration. Although we stipulated we wanted the card on our demonstrators they didn't come. The instructions say that we can fit the cards ourselves, but for some reason Dell want them back? Might get the next set with NVIDIA cards. Saz: the 420 doesn't have 3G? Not that I care as I don't use it tbh! Dunno bout the 3G cards tbh. It's not something I care about so I haven't asked about it. Only comment on what I see in passing Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

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Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,880 Reputation: 4110 Power: 309	Re: New latitude D-420/620 and 820 and Inspiron discussion Those are professional cards, you can't compare them to consumer cards. Perhaps the performance will be about the same, or better in OGL situations but they products are not designed for gaming so it's really hard to say. The drivers are not optimized for dx and ogl games. I am not sure if there are plans to currently release an XPS version of the e-1505. It's possible but I haven't heard anything. Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?