For my MB

Tanase Laurentiu · February 16th, 2006

Can anyone help? I have put in new bios for this board for a friend (so he could use a bigger hard drive). The new Bios version is F3A. Now the pc wont boot at all. When I turn on the pc (dont have to use the button at the front now it comes on when I turn on the psu) it just sits there on a black screen. It doesn't beep and dousn't get to the bit where it detects the hard drives and stuff. Please help.

**kcnychief** · February 16th, 2006

Did the BIOS upgrade finish completely, before it was rebooted? If a PC is interrupted by man (physical reboot), or nature (power spike), the machine can be rendered un-useable if touched during a BIOS upgrade.

You could also try re-seating all hardware - RAM/CPU/HDD/NIC/AUDIO and reboot as well. However, that is probably not the case if all you did was a BIOS upgrade.

**Shamus MacNoob** · February 16th, 2006

This is a tough one , I can see you dont have much experience and flashing a bios should not be taken lightly, now we need much more detailed info to be able to help you , motherboard model and revision number, some bios makers have left backdoors open where you can force flash a bios by making a special floppy and hitting certain keys at boot up , but we need all the details on motherboard and rev numbers to see if that back door is open on yours.

**Mainframeguy** · February 16th, 2006

depending on experience - I might suggest a google of BIOS saviour - think I got that right.... then contact mobo supplier... worst case will be you have to order a flashed BIOS chip from them, unless you have access to EPROM programming gear, and that may be geting you way over your head.

The BIOS savior is what would saved your bacon in this situation for sure....

I feel your pain because it is not your machine. Like Kermit said there can be ways around, but likely road leads to the ending I just gave as your scenario IMHO.

**Shamus MacNoob** · February 16th, 2006

And some bios chips are not push/pin they are soldered to the damn board its a scary thing for sure.

Ok here

http://www.sysopt.com/tutorials/article.php/3532681

This site explains how to get out of a jam if your Award bios has the option to be force fed then if you make a floppy as they say and follow instructions you might be able to get out of this alive!

**LordOfLA** · February 16th, 2006

most bioses have a boot-block that will auto-reflash the bios given an msdos bootable floppy set to auomatically flash and reboot.

That doesnt usually get overwritten unles you force it - so read up on how to make use of it and pray.

**Shamus MacNoob** · February 17th, 2006

Thats what the link above talks about and explains how to go about that.

**LeeJend** · February 17th, 2006

Before you do anything else make sure you tried to install the right bios version for that MB brand/model/version.

If it was the wrong version and the machine does not even beep or flash the keyboard lights try reseting the CMOS memory. If the CMOS reset does not get it to beep or flash lights you will probably need to order a replacement bios chip.

**Shamus MacNoob** · February 17th, 2006

Right bios or wrong he cant make it worse by trying to flash with the correct bios of course but he will need to try and force feed it either way .. its not like he can get the machine to post as it is.

**Mainframeguy** · February 17th, 2006

I was going to explian hotswapping - given he could locate mathching mobo - but Lord just told me these days BIOS chips are all soldered down and I somehow feel I would be giving bad advice to set him onto his mobo with a soldering iron for a truly hot hot swap!

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Tanase Laurentiu OSNN One Post Wonder Joined: February 2006 Posts: 1 Reputation: 0 Power: 0	For my MB Can anyone help? I have put in new bios for this board for a friend (so he could use a bigger hard drive). The new Bios version is F3A. Now the pc wont boot at all. When I turn on the pc (dont have to use the button at the front now it comes on when I turn on the psu) it just sits there on a black screen. It doesn't beep and dousn't get to the bit where it detects the hard drives and stuff. Please help.

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kcnychief █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Joined: April 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,949 Reputation: 4941 Power: 305	Re: For my MB Did the BIOS upgrade finish completely, before it was rebooted? If a PC is interrupted by man (physical reboot), or nature (power spike), the machine can be rendered un-useable if touched during a BIOS upgrade. You could also try re-seating all hardware - RAM/CPU/HDD/NIC/AUDIO and reboot as well. However, that is probably not the case if all you did was a BIOS upgrade. XBOX Live Gamertag: kcnychief

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Shamus MacNoob OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: January 2002 Location: Brossard,Quebec Posts: 4,199 Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 1481 Power: 182	Re: For my MB This is a tough one , I can see you dont have much experience and flashing a bios should not be taken lightly, now we need much more detailed info to be able to help you , motherboard model and revision number, some bios makers have left backdoors open where you can force flash a bios by making a special floppy and hitting certain keys at boot up , but we need all the details on motherboard and rev numbers to see if that back door is open on yours. ASUS PN5-E SLI,Intel E8400,2 x 8800GTX 768mb SLI,ASUS VW266H 26 inch LCD, 8 GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer, Silverstone Strider 850watt PSU.Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit.

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Mainframeguy Debiant by way of Ubuntu Joined: August 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,763 Blog Entries: 5 Reputation: 1390 Power: 169	Re: For my MB depending on experience - I might suggest a google of BIOS saviour - think I got that right.... then contact mobo supplier... worst case will be you have to order a flashed BIOS chip from them, unless you have access to EPROM programming gear, and that may be geting you way over your head. The BIOS savior is what would saved your bacon in this situation for sure.... I feel your pain because it is not your machine. Like Kermit said there can be ways around, but likely road leads to the ending I just gave as your scenario IMHO. hosted by Lord

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Shamus MacNoob OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: January 2002 Location: Brossard,Quebec Posts: 4,199 Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 1481 Power: 182	Re: For my MB And some bios chips are not push/pin they are soldered to the damn board its a scary thing for sure. Ok here http://www.sysopt.com/tutorials/article.php/3532681 This site explains how to get out of a jam if your Award bios has the option to be force fed then if you make a floppy as they say and follow instructions you might be able to get out of this alive! ASUS PN5-E SLI,Intel E8400,2 x 8800GTX 768mb SLI,ASUS VW266H 26 inch LCD, 8 GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer, Silverstone Strider 850watt PSU.Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit.

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LordOfLA Godlike! Joined: February 2004 Location: Salisbury, Wiltshire, UK Posts: 7,031 Blog Entries: 5 Reputation: 4137 Power: 213	Re: For my MB most bioses have a boot-block that will auto-reflash the bios given an msdos bootable floppy set to auomatically flash and reboot. That doesnt usually get overwritten unles you force it - so read up on how to make use of it and pray. If HK-47 and GLaDOS had a child, the character they create would cause the video game world to overdose on awesome. -sheridanmovieguy: Dragon age forum user.

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Shamus MacNoob OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: January 2002 Location: Brossard,Quebec Posts: 4,199 Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 1481 Power: 182	Re: For my MB Thats what the link above talks about and explains how to go about that. ASUS PN5-E SLI,Intel E8400,2 x 8800GTX 768mb SLI,ASUS VW266H 26 inch LCD, 8 GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer, Silverstone Strider 850watt PSU.Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit.

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LeeJend OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: January 2003 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 5,261 Reputation: 3386 Power: 199	Re: For my MB Before you do anything else make sure you tried to install the right bios version for that MB brand/model/version. If it was the wrong version and the machine does not even beep or flash the keyboard lights try reseting the CMOS memory. If the CMOS reset does not get it to beep or flash lights you will probably need to order a replacement bios chip. Thought for the new millenium: In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? - Open Office - Firefox - Thunderbird - Gimp -Ubuntu - Red Hat -

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Shamus MacNoob OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: January 2002 Location: Brossard,Quebec Posts: 4,199 Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 1481 Power: 182	Re: For my MB Right bios or wrong he cant make it worse by trying to flash with the correct bios of course but he will need to try and force feed it either way .. its not like he can get the machine to post as it is. ASUS PN5-E SLI,Intel E8400,2 x 8800GTX 768mb SLI,ASUS VW266H 26 inch LCD, 8 GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer, Silverstone Strider 850watt PSU.Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit.

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Mainframeguy Debiant by way of Ubuntu Joined: August 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,763 Blog Entries: 5 Reputation: 1390 Power: 169	Re: For my MB I was going to explian hotswapping - given he could locate mathching mobo - but Lord just told me these days BIOS chips are all soldered down and I somehow feel I would be giving bad advice to set him onto his mobo with a soldering iron for a truly hot hot swap! hosted by Lord