Monitor opinion?

Android412 · December 30th, 2005

Has anybody here tried the Dell 1905FP monitor?

Bought a Samsung 913V and just don't like it. Can't really put my finger on it. Think its the contrast ratio. Colors seems either washed out, or over whelming(depending on the settings).

Dell's site says the 1905FP has a 800:1 contrast vs. the 600:1 of the Samsung.

The 2001FP, and the 2005FPW are highly recommended on this site, but a little more then I want to spend right now.

Android412

**mlakrid** · December 30th, 2005

Dont do it...

spend the extra $$ and get the 2005fpw, you also get a better native resolution, something to think about...

its the best monitor for the money... and NetRyder always seems to find great rebates...

NETS.... help Android out here...

**kcnychief** · December 30th, 2005

I have to disagree, only slightly. The 1905FP is a good monitor, as I can personally atest since we use them here at work extensively. The native resolution difference is substantial, moving from 1280x1024 on the 1905 to 1600x1200 on the 2005 +

However, if you don't need the increase in resolution, I would go with the 1905FP

**mlakrid** · December 30th, 2005

Originally Posted by kcnychief

I have to disagree, only slightly. The 1905FP is a good monitor, as I can personally atest since we use them here at work extensively. The native resolution difference is substantial, moving from 1280x1024 on the 1905 to 1600x1200 on the 2005 +

However, if you don't need the increase in resolution, I would go with the 1905FP

Well I am a gamer... so to me, the better native resolution was the selling point in getting my Dell...

If you dont game alot, then maybe you dont need it... but its still nice to have.... plus there is less than a $200 difference....

What you need it for should be the determining factor...

**kcnychief** · December 30th, 2005

Originally Posted by mlakrid

Well I am a gamer... so to me, the better native resolution was the selling point in getting my Dell...

If you dont game alot, then maybe you dont need it... but its still nice to have.... plus there is less than a $200 difference....

What you need it for should be the determining factor...

Very good point, and to be honest I don't game so that could make me a bit biased. I have a 19" personally, and it does the job quite nicely.

Android412 · December 30th, 2005

Well, I am a lite to medium gamer, but dont know if I can justify the extra $$$. Having a hard enough time justifing the $400ish on the Samsung/1905FP, over the 17 flat crt I still have, that has no problems.

**mlakrid** · December 30th, 2005

better look again...
the 2005fpw is only $463 right now look HERE

Android412 · December 30th, 2005

I'm Canadian. Its $561.75 on Dell.ca

**NetRyder** · December 30th, 2005

Since you mentioned that you do play games, I thought I should point this out. The 1905FP has a 20ms response time, which might be a little on the high side. You typically want less than 16ms; the lower the better.

Another thing to bear in mind is that the native resolution of the panel is 1280x1024, which is the same as that of the 17" panels, so you don't really gain much over them. If I were in your position (and I was a few months ago), I'd go with the 17" 1704FPT which has the same native resolution and a lower response time, or spring for the 20" 2005FPW. The 19" panels seem like an odd intermediate to me, unless you can get one with a higher resolution than 1280x1024.

**ShepsCrook** · December 30th, 2005

I personally have a 1905, and I tried it for gaming. It practically made me sick. I use it as my 2ndary text/chat monitor because it is much more clear, as well as brighter than my 19" CRT which I use as my gaming monitor. Dual Display!

If you want a gaming monitor, I'd go with the VX922 as it has 2ms response time, but is only a 6bit monitor whereas you could get the Samsung 940b which is an 8 bit monitor with 8ms response time.
Samsung 940b
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824001066
Viewsonic VX922
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824116375

jimi_81 · December 31st, 2005

i just went with the samsung 740B. 600:1, 8ms.
its a great find for the cash i paid.
really happy with it. no ghosting, colours are very vibrant!

Android412 · December 31st, 2005

Oh crap, didn't realize the 1905FP was 20ms.

Any comments on this Gateway?
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro...gon=&langid=EN
(I work there, staff purchase is about the same as the 2005FPW but with better specs)

Dell 2005FPW
http://accessories.dell.com/sna/Prod...l=en&cs=CADHS1

More then I want to spend, and not a 100% yet, but seems like its the better choice in the long run.

**mlakrid** · January 5th, 2006

Originally Posted by Android412

Oh crap, didn't realize the 1905FP was 20ms.

Any comments on this Gateway?
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro...gon=&langid=EN
(I work there, staff purchase is about the same as the 2005FPW but with better specs)

Dell 2005FPW
http://accessories.dell.com/sna/Prod...l=en&cs=CADHS1

More then I want to spend, and not a 100% yet, but seems like its the better choice in the long run.

go with the dell out of those two choices...

just my opinion..

**LordOfLA** · January 5th, 2006

For gaming I'd suggest the 2001FP or the 2405FPW. Pretend the 2005 doesnt exist since its a stretched 17" panel.

**SPeedY_B** · January 5th, 2006

Originally Posted by LordOfLA

For gaming I'd suggest the 2001FP or the 2405FPW. Pretend the 2005 doesnt exist since its a stretched 17" panel.

It's a 20" Widescreen panel? How does that make it a "stretched" 17" ?

**LordOfLA** · January 6th, 2006

Measure the hights. Just cos its a 20" diagonal doesnt mean its the same as my 20" 4:3 2001

The widescreen equivalent of te 2001 is the 2405. My boss has two 2005FPW's on his desk - they are shorter than my 2001 and do not provide him with 1600:1200 as a resolution option.

**SPeedY_B** · January 6th, 2006

Widescreen monitors aren't as big as their 4:3 / 5:4 equals. That doesn't mean that they're stretched.

lacunae · January 13th, 2006

Originally Posted by Android412

Oh crap, didn't realize the 1905FP was 20ms.

Any comments on this Gateway?
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro...gon=&langid=EN
(I work there, staff purchase is about the same as the 2005FPW but with better specs)

Dell 2005FPW
http://accessories.dell.com/sna/Prod...l=en&cs=CADHS1

More then I want to spend, and not a 100% yet, but seems like its the better choice in the long run.

Just setup that Gateway for someone -- very nice. I'm thinking about getting one for use as a multimedia monitor in my bedroom (w/HTPC, HDTV receiver/dvd, etc). It has a great selection of inputs (and PIP), and supports HDCP on the DVI (my HDTV receiver won't play DVDs through VGA or DVI without HDCP enabled)

Also, the screen seems to be very well balanced. Height, tilt and pivoting (to portrait mode) adjust very smoothly/effortlessly.

If you work at a place that carries it, can't you test one out before buying?

Gus K · January 13th, 2006

Comparing response times might not be all it's cracked up to be.

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/...121906,00.asp#

**LeeJend** · January 13th, 2006

Yeah, what Gus said. When it come to monitors you really need to see and handle one using the applications you use (games) and preferably with the same ambient lighting you have at home.

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Android412 OSNN Addict Joined: January 2004 Location: Hamilton, ON Posts: 198 Reputation: 40 Power: 104	Monitor opinion? Has anybody here tried the Dell 1905FP monitor? Bought a Samsung 913V and just don't like it. Can't really put my finger on it. Think its the contrast ratio. Colors seems either washed out, or over whelming(depending on the settings). Dell's site says the 1905FP has a 800:1 contrast vs. the 600:1 of the Samsung. The 2001FP, and the 2005FPW are highly recommended on this site, but a little more then I want to spend right now. Android412

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mlakrid OSNN BASSMASTER Joined: February 2005 Location: Land O Lakes, YES, JUST LIKE the CHEESE! Posts: 2,338 Reputation: 1410 Power: 126	Re: Monitor opinion? Dont do it... spend the extra $$ and get the 2005fpw, you also get a better native resolution, something to think about... its the best monitor for the money... and NetRyder always seems to find great rebates... NETS.... help Android out here... Quote: "Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity." R.I.P. the best comedian of our time; GEORGE CARLIN.

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kcnychief █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Joined: April 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,949 Reputation: 4941 Power: 305	Re: Monitor opinion? I have to disagree, only slightly. The 1905FP is a good monitor, as I can personally atest since we use them here at work extensively. The native resolution difference is substantial, moving from 1280x1024 on the 1905 to 1600x1200 on the 2005 + However, if you don't need the increase in resolution, I would go with the 1905FP XBOX Live Gamertag: kcnychief

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mlakrid OSNN BASSMASTER Joined: February 2005 Location: Land O Lakes, YES, JUST LIKE the CHEESE! Posts: 2,338 Reputation: 1410 Power: 126	Re: Monitor opinion? Originally Posted by kcnychief I have to disagree, only slightly. The 1905FP is a good monitor, as I can personally atest since we use them here at work extensively. The native resolution difference is substantial, moving from 1280x1024 on the 1905 to 1600x1200 on the 2005 + However, if you don't need the increase in resolution, I would go with the 1905FP Well I am a gamer... so to me, the better native resolution was the selling point in getting my Dell... If you dont game alot, then maybe you dont need it... but its still nice to have.... plus there is less than a $200 difference.... What you need it for should be the determining factor... Quote: "Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity." R.I.P. the best comedian of our time; GEORGE CARLIN.

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kcnychief █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Joined: April 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,949 Reputation: 4941 Power: 305	Re: Monitor opinion? Originally Posted by mlakrid Well I am a gamer... so to me, the better native resolution was the selling point in getting my Dell... If you dont game alot, then maybe you dont need it... but its still nice to have.... plus there is less than a $200 difference.... What you need it for should be the determining factor... Very good point, and to be honest I don't game so that could make me a bit biased. I have a 19" personally, and it does the job quite nicely. XBOX Live Gamertag: kcnychief

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Android412 OSNN Addict Joined: January 2004 Location: Hamilton, ON Posts: 198 Reputation: 40 Power: 104	Re: Monitor opinion? Well, I am a lite to medium gamer, but dont know if I can justify the extra $$$. Having a hard enough time justifing the $400ish on the Samsung/1905FP, over the 17 flat crt I still have, that has no problems.

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mlakrid OSNN BASSMASTER Joined: February 2005 Location: Land O Lakes, YES, JUST LIKE the CHEESE! Posts: 2,338 Reputation: 1410 Power: 126	Re: Monitor opinion? better look again... the 2005fpw is only $463 right now look HERE Quote: "Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity." R.I.P. the best comedian of our time; GEORGE CARLIN.

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Android412 OSNN Addict Joined: January 2004 Location: Hamilton, ON Posts: 198 Reputation: 40 Power: 104	Re: Monitor opinion? I'm Canadian. Its $561.75 on Dell.ca

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NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 298	Re: Monitor opinion? Since you mentioned that you do play games, I thought I should point this out. The 1905FP has a 20ms response time, which might be a little on the high side. You typically want less than 16ms; the lower the better. Another thing to bear in mind is that the native resolution of the panel is 1280x1024, which is the same as that of the 17" panels, so you don't really gain much over them. If I were in your position (and I was a few months ago), I'd go with the 17" 1704FPT which has the same native resolution and a lower response time, or spring for the 20" 2005FPW. The 19" panels seem like an odd intermediate to me, unless you can get one with a higher resolution than 1280x1024. http://kunal.kundaje.net

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ShepsCrook Red Sox Fan! Joined: September 2003 Location: Raleigh NC Posts: 1,484 Reputation: 590 Power: 125	Re: Monitor opinion? I personally have a 1905, and I tried it for gaming. It practically made me sick. I use it as my 2ndary text/chat monitor because it is much more clear, as well as brighter than my 19" CRT which I use as my gaming monitor. Dual Display! If you want a gaming monitor, I'd go with the VX922 as it has 2ms response time, but is only a 6bit monitor whereas you could get the Samsung 940b which is an 8 bit monitor with 8ms response time. Samsung 940b http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824001066 Viewsonic VX922 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824116375 There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Antec P182b, i7 920, 12GB Ram,HD6870, X-Fi Platinum, 128GB SATAIII Crucual, 2x 640GB AALS This is Bunny Dead ---> (\__/) No world domination <--(='.'=)--<< For him today.. hahaha (")_(")

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jimi_81 OSNN Senior Addict Joined: May 2002 Location: Stoney Creek, ON, Canada Posts: 820 Reputation: 500 Power: 135	Re: Monitor opinion? i just went with the samsung 740B. 600:1, 8ms. its a great find for the cash i paid. really happy with it. no ghosting, colours are very vibrant!

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Android412 OSNN Addict Joined: January 2004 Location: Hamilton, ON Posts: 198 Reputation: 40 Power: 104	Re: Monitor opinion? Oh crap, didn't realize the 1905FP was 20ms. Any comments on this Gateway? http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro...gon=&langid=EN (I work there, staff purchase is about the same as the 2005FPW but with better specs) Dell 2005FPW http://accessories.dell.com/sna/Prod...l=en&cs=CADHS1 More then I want to spend, and not a 100% yet, but seems like its the better choice in the long run.

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mlakrid OSNN BASSMASTER Joined: February 2005 Location: Land O Lakes, YES, JUST LIKE the CHEESE! Posts: 2,338 Reputation: 1410 Power: 126	Re: Monitor opinion? Originally Posted by Android412 Oh crap, didn't realize the 1905FP was 20ms. Any comments on this Gateway? http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro...gon=&langid=EN (I work there, staff purchase is about the same as the 2005FPW but with better specs) Dell 2005FPW http://accessories.dell.com/sna/Prod...l=en&cs=CADHS1 More then I want to spend, and not a 100% yet, but seems like its the better choice in the long run. go with the dell out of those two choices... just my opinion.. Quote: "Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity." R.I.P. the best comedian of our time; GEORGE CARLIN.

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LordOfLA Godlike! Joined: February 2004 Location: Salisbury, Wiltshire, UK Posts: 7,031 Blog Entries: 5 Reputation: 4137 Power: 213	Re: Monitor opinion? For gaming I'd suggest the 2001FP or the 2405FPW. Pretend the 2005 doesnt exist since its a stretched 17" panel. If HK-47 and GLaDOS had a child, the character they create would cause the video game world to overdose on awesome. -sheridanmovieguy: Dragon age forum user.

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SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 15,800 Reputation: 2877 Power: 310	Re: Monitor opinion? Originally Posted by LordOfLA For gaming I'd suggest the 2001FP or the 2405FPW. Pretend the 2005 doesnt exist since its a stretched 17" panel. It's a 20" Widescreen panel? How does that make it a "stretched" 17" ? 1. SPeedYB.co.uk 2. CamPortal.co.uk 3. MacIRC.co.uk

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lacunae OSNN One Post Wonder Joined: January 2006 Posts: 1 Reputation: 0 Power: 0	Re: Monitor opinion? Originally Posted by Android412 Oh crap, didn't realize the 1905FP was 20ms. Any comments on this Gateway? http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro...gon=&langid=EN (I work there, staff purchase is about the same as the 2005FPW but with better specs) Dell 2005FPW http://accessories.dell.com/sna/Prod...l=en&cs=CADHS1 More then I want to spend, and not a 100% yet, but seems like its the better choice in the long run. Just setup that Gateway for someone -- very nice. I'm thinking about getting one for use as a multimedia monitor in my bedroom (w/HTPC, HDTV receiver/dvd, etc). It has a great selection of inputs (and PIP), and supports HDCP on the DVI (my HDTV receiver won't play DVDs through VGA or DVI without HDCP enabled) Also, the screen seems to be very well balanced. Height, tilt and pivoting (to portrait mode) adjust very smoothly/effortlessly. If you work at a place that carries it, can't you test one out before buying?

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