Long Distance cordless keyboard/mouse

**Heeter** · July 8th, 2005

Hi Guys,

I am wondering what cordless keyboard/mouse works really well from 10' to 15' away from base. This is for my media center in my wall unit. I want to sit on my couch and use them. Hopefully I could avoid bluetooth.

Thanks in advance,

Heeter

**kcnychief** · July 8th, 2005

I have the Logitech MX1000 mouse. I have used it across rooms before, probably close to 20 feet, works like a champ. My keyboard isn't as far, maybe close to 10 feet. Not sure the exact make/model but I can check when I get home. I have been waiting for the Keyboard to come out with the MX1000 engine for awhile, *drool*

**LordOfLA** · July 8th, 2005

1600dpi keyboard...

**Heeter** · July 8th, 2005

Originally Posted by LordOfLA

1600dpi keyboard...

UR funny, LordOfLA.

kcnychief, I was told at the Computer store that the logitechs couldn't make it back 5 feet, but if the MX1000 can do 15', I am getting it. I know my MX700 sucks at distance, maybe 3' to 5'feet MAX. I would guess the keyboard might do the same thing though.....

Thanks kcnychief

Heeter

**kcnychief** · July 8th, 2005

Originally Posted by Heeter

UR funny, LordOfLA.

kcnychief, I was told at the Computer store that the logitechs couldn't make it back 5 feet, but if the MX1000 can do 15', I am getting it. I know my MX700 sucks at distance, maybe 3' to 5'feet MAX. I would guess the keyboard might do the same thing though.....

Thanks kcnychief

Heeter

Yeah well if you want I can do a stress test on my MX1000 tonight, try to give you a more accurate judgement. I will post back in a few hours.

**Heeter** · July 8th, 2005

Great, Thanks a whole bunch.

Heeter

**Sazar** · July 8th, 2005

My ATI AIW remote works about 20 odd feet away. My MX1000 works about 20 feet tops, a coupla feet less than the AIW remote, though not much. Now my remote's receiver is a little clearer (no stuff absorbing signal) so I would say charged and w/o obstruction, it is probably about the same range.

**kcnychief** · July 8th, 2005

I just measured, I can actually get signal at 100% reliability on my MX1000 at 22 feet. After 23 feet, it still works but signal degrades and drops off totally at 28 feet. Man, that's S-I-C-K

**LeeJend** · July 9th, 2005

Wow, not only can you highjack a neighbors wireless network, now you can hijack his keyboard and mouse too.

Seriously, will they work through interior walls too?

I'm thinking about going wireless and I'm wondering about interference.

Do cell phones or portable phones affect them?

**kcnychief** · July 9th, 2005

Originally Posted by LeeJend

Wow, not only can you highjack a neighbors wireless network, now you can hijack his keyboard and mouse too.

Seriously, will they work through interior walls too?

That I didn't try, I just have a nice office

Which, I hope stays that way for awhile. When we moved in my Fiance's mother referred to it as the "baby's room". But, no such luck on that so far, haha.

Also, ironically enough that you mention that, the other night I did connect to my neighbor's wireless. I just moved in, hadn't explored that yet. Believe it or not I get better signal strength on their router than mine. They don't use encryption and I do, lol

**Mainframeguy** · July 9th, 2005

Originally Posted by LeeJend

Seriously, will they work through interior walls too?

I know this for a fact - thinking I would be quite safe to do so I took my MS cordless media keyboard downstairs to the kitchen for a good clean out once - this must be a good forty feet distance as the wave flies, with a floor and a wall or two in the way. Cleaned keyboard with zero regard to any key presses etc thinking I was perfectly safe at that remove.....

On return to the rig I find all mannner of crap all over the screen with various things popped up and moved etc! Luckily no harm was done, but I learnt something there!

**LeeJend** · July 9th, 2005

Thanks Mainframe.

I have a nice connection to my neighbors unprotected wireless. Though a brick wall, 2 plaster walls, the 2 cars in my garage, his brick wall and who knows how many interior walls. So I'm very watchful of security with wireless gadgets.

If I want to download porn, movies or songs I use the neighbors connection.

**Sazar** · July 9th, 2005

Piggy backing on an unprotected wireless connection is a crime in some areas

Just becareful of whom you inform of your escapades.

**Heeter** · July 9th, 2005

Haha, you guys are nutz, LOL

How did this thread get into highjacking wireless connections?

kcnychief, Thanx sooo much for your professional testing of Logitech equipment. I actually can't believe the difference from my MX700 to your MX1000. Now the keyboard........

Heeter

**Son Goku** · July 9th, 2005

Originally Posted by kcnychief

Also, ironically enough that you mention that, the other night I did connect to my neighbor's wireless. I just moved in, hadn't explored that yet. Believe it or not I get better signal strength on their router than mine. They don't use encryption and I do, lol

If you are a nice neighbor, you'd find a descrete way to inform them of the need to secure their connection.

And I say discrete, because depending on the neighbor, they might take offence to you having been in there

Speaking of which, back when I lived on campus and was on the resnet connection, I decided to try PC Anywhere. You wouldn't believe the number of students who had unprotected win95 and win98 boxes with unprotected PC Anywhere servers running on the campus ethernet... Then again, perhaps some would.

About all I did was leave a readme.txt file on their desktop to tell them just how unprotected they were leaving their box, then backed out

Wireless key loggers, hmm

**dreamliner77** · July 9th, 2005

Try the Gyration keyboards and mice. Love the gyroscopic mouse.

**LeeJend** · July 10th, 2005

Originally Posted by Son Goku

If you are a nice neighbor, you'd find a descrete way to inform them of the need to secure their connection. And I say discrete, because depending on the neighbor, they might take offence to you having been in there

I figure when the RIAA lawsuit shows up it will be discrete enough for them. The US Marine Corps has some good sayings. One of my favorite is
"God punishes the stupid."

**Son Goku** · July 10th, 2005

Oh man, that's just so cruel

Just be careful with what saz warned about. Any good lawyer who puts 2 and 2 together

Then again, if they figure it out soon enough, a call to the pizza delivery guy for 100 pizzas, pay on arrival, might be fitting recompense

**kcnychief** · July 15th, 2005

I just read this article which was posted on the main page, and wanted to post it here too. Proposed 30 foot range, but takes 4 AAA batteries. Man, I want one so bad, I put a note in my Outlook Calendar to buy one when they come out in September. LOL

July 8th, 2005	Top \| #1
Heeter Overclocked Like A Mother Joined: July 2002 Location: In front of my computer Posts: 2,729 Reputation: 684 Power: 150	Long Distance cordless keyboard/mouse Hi Guys, I am wondering what cordless keyboard/mouse works really well from 10' to 15' away from base. This is for my media center in my wall unit. I want to sit on my couch and use them. Hopefully I could avoid bluetooth. Thanks in advance, Heeter

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kcnychief █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Joined: April 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,949 Reputation: 4941 Power: 302	Re: Long Distance cordless keyboard/mouse I have the Logitech MX1000 mouse. I have used it across rooms before, probably close to 20 feet, works like a champ. My keyboard isn't as far, maybe close to 10 feet. Not sure the exact make/model but I can check when I get home. I have been waiting for the Keyboard to come out with the MX1000 engine for awhile, drool XBOX Live Gamertag: kcnychief

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LordOfLA Godlike! Joined: February 2004 Location: Salisbury, Wiltshire, UK Posts: 7,015 Blog Entries: 5 Reputation: 4137 Power: 209	Re: Long Distance cordless keyboard/mouse 1600dpi keyboard... If HK-47 and GLaDOS had a child, the character they create would cause the video game world to overdose on awesome. -sheridanmovieguy: Dragon age forum user.

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Heeter Overclocked Like A Mother Joined: July 2002 Location: In front of my computer Posts: 2,729 Reputation: 684 Power: 150	Re: Long Distance cordless keyboard/mouse Originally Posted by LordOfLA 1600dpi keyboard... UR funny, LordOfLA. kcnychief, I was told at the Computer store that the logitechs couldn't make it back 5 feet, but if the MX1000 can do 15', I am getting it. I know my MX700 sucks at distance, maybe 3' to 5'feet MAX. I would guess the keyboard might do the same thing though..... Thanks kcnychief Heeter

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kcnychief █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Joined: April 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,949 Reputation: 4941 Power: 302	Re: Long Distance cordless keyboard/mouse Originally Posted by Heeter UR funny, LordOfLA. kcnychief, I was told at the Computer store that the logitechs couldn't make it back 5 feet, but if the MX1000 can do 15', I am getting it. I know my MX700 sucks at distance, maybe 3' to 5'feet MAX. I would guess the keyboard might do the same thing though..... Thanks kcnychief Heeter Yeah well if you want I can do a stress test on my MX1000 tonight, try to give you a more accurate judgement. I will post back in a few hours. XBOX Live Gamertag: kcnychief

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July 8th, 2005	Top \| #6
Heeter Overclocked Like A Mother Joined: July 2002 Location: In front of my computer Posts: 2,729 Reputation: 684 Power: 150	Re: Long Distance cordless keyboard/mouse Great, Thanks a whole bunch. Heeter

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Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,880 Reputation: 4110 Power: 309	Re: Long Distance cordless keyboard/mouse My ATI AIW remote works about 20 odd feet away. My MX1000 works about 20 feet tops, a coupla feet less than the AIW remote, though not much. Now my remote's receiver is a little clearer (no stuff absorbing signal) so I would say charged and w/o obstruction, it is probably about the same range. Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

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kcnychief █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Joined: April 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,949 Reputation: 4941 Power: 302	Re: Long Distance cordless keyboard/mouse I just measured, I can actually get signal at 100% reliability on my MX1000 at 22 feet. After 23 feet, it still works but signal degrades and drops off totally at 28 feet. Man, that's S-I-C-K XBOX Live Gamertag: kcnychief

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LeeJend OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: January 2003 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 5,255 Reputation: 3386 Power: 196	Re: Long Distance cordless keyboard/mouse Wow, not only can you highjack a neighbors wireless network, now you can hijack his keyboard and mouse too. Seriously, will they work through interior walls too? I'm thinking about going wireless and I'm wondering about interference. Do cell phones or portable phones affect them? Thought for the new millenium: In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? - Open Office - Firefox - Thunderbird - Gimp -Ubuntu - Red Hat -

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kcnychief █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Joined: April 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,949 Reputation: 4941 Power: 302	Re: Long Distance cordless keyboard/mouse Originally Posted by LeeJend Wow, not only can you highjack a neighbors wireless network, now you can hijack his keyboard and mouse too. Seriously, will they work through interior walls too? That I didn't try, I just have a nice office Which, I hope stays that way for awhile. When we moved in my Fiance's mother referred to it as the "baby's room". But, no such luck on that so far, haha. Also, ironically enough that you mention that, the other night I did connect to my neighbor's wireless. I just moved in, hadn't explored that yet. Believe it or not I get better signal strength on their router than mine. They don't use encryption and I do, lol XBOX Live Gamertag: kcnychief

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Mainframeguy Debiant by way of Ubuntu Joined: August 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,763 Blog Entries: 5 Reputation: 1390 Power: 166	Re: Long Distance cordless keyboard/mouse Originally Posted by LeeJend Seriously, will they work through interior walls too? I know this for a fact - thinking I would be quite safe to do so I took my MS cordless media keyboard downstairs to the kitchen for a good clean out once - this must be a good forty feet distance as the wave flies, with a floor and a wall or two in the way. Cleaned keyboard with zero regard to any key presses etc thinking I was perfectly safe at that remove..... On return to the rig I find all mannner of crap all over the screen with various things popped up and moved etc! Luckily no harm was done, but I learnt something there! hosted by Lord

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LeeJend OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: January 2003 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 5,255 Reputation: 3386 Power: 196	Re: Long Distance cordless keyboard/mouse Thanks Mainframe. I have a nice connection to my neighbors unprotected wireless. Though a brick wall, 2 plaster walls, the 2 cars in my garage, his brick wall and who knows how many interior walls. So I'm very watchful of security with wireless gadgets. If I want to download porn, movies or songs I use the neighbors connection. Thought for the new millenium: In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? - Open Office - Firefox - Thunderbird - Gimp -Ubuntu - Red Hat -

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Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,880 Reputation: 4110 Power: 309	Re: Long Distance cordless keyboard/mouse Piggy backing on an unprotected wireless connection is a crime in some areas Just becareful of whom you inform of your escapades. Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

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Heeter Overclocked Like A Mother Joined: July 2002 Location: In front of my computer Posts: 2,729 Reputation: 684 Power: 150	Re: Long Distance cordless keyboard/mouse Haha, you guys are nutz, LOL How did this thread get into highjacking wireless connections? kcnychief, Thanx sooo much for your professional testing of Logitech equipment. I actually can't believe the difference from my MX700 to your MX1000. Now the keyboard........ Heeter

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Son Goku No lover of dogma Joined: June 2004 Location: 439 East District, Mount Paozu Posts: 1,980 Reputation: 700 Power: 120	Re: Long Distance cordless keyboard/mouse Originally Posted by kcnychief Also, ironically enough that you mention that, the other night I did connect to my neighbor's wireless. I just moved in, hadn't explored that yet. Believe it or not I get better signal strength on their router than mine. They don't use encryption and I do, lol If you are a nice neighbor, you'd find a descrete way to inform them of the need to secure their connection. And I say discrete, because depending on the neighbor, they might take offence to you having been in there Speaking of which, back when I lived on campus and was on the resnet connection, I decided to try PC Anywhere. You wouldn't believe the number of students who had unprotected win95 and win98 boxes with unprotected PC Anywhere servers running on the campus ethernet... Then again, perhaps some would. About all I did was leave a readme.txt file on their desktop to tell them just how unprotected they were leaving their box, then backed out Wireless key loggers, hmm

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LeeJend OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: January 2003 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 5,255 Reputation: 3386 Power: 196	Re: Long Distance cordless keyboard/mouse Originally Posted by Son Goku If you are a nice neighbor, you'd find a descrete way to inform them of the need to secure their connection. And I say discrete, because depending on the neighbor, they might take offence to you having been in there I figure when the RIAA lawsuit shows up it will be discrete enough for them. The US Marine Corps has some good sayings. One of my favorite is "God punishes the stupid." Thought for the new millenium: In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? - Open Office - Firefox - Thunderbird - Gimp -Ubuntu - Red Hat -

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Son Goku No lover of dogma Joined: June 2004 Location: 439 East District, Mount Paozu Posts: 1,980 Reputation: 700 Power: 120	Re: Long Distance cordless keyboard/mouse Oh man, that's just so cruel Just be careful with what saz warned about. Any good lawyer who puts 2 and 2 together Then again, if they figure it out soon enough, a call to the pizza delivery guy for 100 pizzas, pay on arrival, might be fitting recompense

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kcnychief █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Joined: April 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,949 Reputation: 4941 Power: 302	Re: Long Distance cordless keyboard/mouse I just read this article which was posted on the main page, and wanted to post it here too. Proposed 30 foot range, but takes 4 AAA batteries. Man, I want one so bad, I put a note in my Outlook Calendar to buy one when they come out in September. LOL XBOX Live Gamertag: kcnychief