RAM issues

**the_music_man** · September 8th, 2004

ok i just got a mushkin 512mb pc2700 stick and when i put it in it either makes my computer not load windows (just stays at screen with spec info) or it loads then restarts automatically. but then when i use my kingston pc2100 everything boots up normally. can anyone tell me whyyy? i just bought this mushkin stick and i really want to use it! i hope its not b/c of the speed b/c my mobo is suppose to support up to 400mhz. bah

**dreamliner77** · September 8th, 2004

Is it doing it with just the Mushkin installed?
Just an idea, maybe you have the timings tighter for the 2100 than the 2700 can handle? Try setting BIOS to default and then booting.

Run memtest86 also, it is possible to get a bad stick once in a while

**the_music_man** · September 8th, 2004

i put BIOS to optimized at first and it said my stick was 266mhz then it went to windows screen then rebooted by itself. then i put " fail safe" bios setting and it recognized my card as 333 which is correct but then it didn't even start up windows or anyhthing . i defintely have to check if its defective. could u give me the link to that memtest cuz i got one a while back and it was all messed up and i didn't know how to use it.

**dreamliner77** · September 9th, 2004

I know this is hard to remember: http://www.memtest86.com/

Or just in case you forgot, there's this great new search engine from this little start up company. I believe it www.google.com It's so cool, the memtest site was the first returned. You really should check this google thing out. It's amazing....

**Xie** · September 9th, 2004

Originally Posted by dreamliner77

I know this is hard to remember: http://www.memtest86.com/

Or just in case you forgot, there's this great new search engine from this little start up company. I believe it www.google.com It's so cool, the memtest site was the first returned. You really should check this google thing out. It's amazing....

Even better the updated and still being developed Memtest86+.

**dreamliner77** · September 10th, 2004

Only really needed for AMD64...

**Xie** · September 10th, 2004

Originally Posted by dreamliner77

Only really needed for AMD64...

I see more then AMD64 in the changelog.

**the_music_man** · September 11th, 2004

hold on... my computer doesn't even boot with the Mushkin RAM so how the heck would this program check to see if it is faulty?

**Xie** · September 11th, 2004

Originally Posted by prodj88

hold on... my computer doesn't even boot with the Mushkin RAM so how the heck would this program check to see if it is faulty?

How far into the boot process do you get ... not very discriptive in your 1st post.

Also using this you would boot to it right after bios screen.

**the_music_man** · September 16th, 2004

ok i tested my kingston and it got 100's on memtest. but never got around to doing mushkin cuz i had to RMA it quickly. but for the kingston one i get blue screens saying dumping physical memory and sometimes it even says b/c of a certain file like *.sys??? does anybody know what these blue screens mean? i did memtest on them flawlessly... and by the wya its usuually after im closing a game , (for instance i got the screen right after i exited Sims 2)

**Lee** · September 16th, 2004

http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp memory tester sponsered by M$

**the_music_man** · September 16th, 2004

wow thanks i'll give it a try and tell you what happened

**Steevo** · September 17th, 2004

what *.sys file? That error suggests a non NT compatable file. What are teh error numbers associated with the BSOD?

The BSOD is usally when a driver or another file tries to read-write to a block of memory that has not been given to the process. Or that is in use by another process.

**the_music_man** · September 17th, 2004

passed the windows memory test flawlessly...i'll take a pic of the blue screen and post it soon

toretto · September 17th, 2004

all i know is that you cant mix 2100 and 2700 memory, you have to use either one or the other, the board should automatically underclock the 2700, which will probably make the 2700 stick not function correctly.

**dreamliner77** · September 17th, 2004

I've never personally had an issue with mixing 2100 and 2700 (In a 2100 board). But you are right, the 2700 will be underclocked.

**the_music_man** · September 17th, 2004

i didn't mix them tho. when i had the 2700 i had it in by itself

**the_music_man** · September 18th, 2004

ok so i can't live with a 256mb any more yall and i don't wanna waste money getin another RMA so what am i suppose to do?

**Lee** · September 18th, 2004

Originally Posted by prodj88

ok so i can't live with a 256mb any more yall and i don't wanna waste money getin another RMA so what am i suppose to do?

Cry!

**Sazar** · September 18th, 2004

if the mushkin is not working it may have something to do with the volts being supplied to the mem clip...

given that you say you have tried everything else it would suggest that the clip is either faulty or there is insufficient power being delivered to the dimm slots...

overall I would suggest rma'ing the mushkin and getting another 256 or a 512 clip of the kingston you have already since it works and you don't have to worry about compatability with it apparently...

abit also have technical support forums... consider posting your query there since the people on those boards will likely be able to help you out with specifics...

September 8th, 2004	Top \| #1
the_music_man aka prodj88 =P Joined: July 2002 Location: USA Posts: 2,401 Reputation: 730 Power: 149	RAM issues ok i just got a mushkin 512mb pc2700 stick and when i put it in it either makes my computer not load windows (just stays at screen with spec info) or it loads then restarts automatically. but then when i use my kingston pc2100 everything boots up normally. can anyone tell me whyyy? i just bought this mushkin stick and i really want to use it! i hope its not b/c of the speed b/c my mobo is suppose to support up to 400mhz. bah The Button To The Left Can Be Used To Reward Members For Good Posts

September 8th, 2004	Top \| #2
dreamliner77 The Analog Kid Joined: March 2002 Location: Red Sox Nation Posts: 4,638 Reputation: 1111 Power: 178	Is it doing it with just the Mushkin installed? Just an idea, maybe you have the timings tighter for the 2100 than the 2700 can handle? Try setting BIOS to default and then booting. Run memtest86 also, it is possible to get a bad stick once in a while "You can fight without ever winning, but never win without a fight." -Neil Peart of RUSH

September 8th, 2004	Top \| #3
the_music_man aka prodj88 =P Joined: July 2002 Location: USA Posts: 2,401 Reputation: 730 Power: 149	i put BIOS to optimized at first and it said my stick was 266mhz then it went to windows screen then rebooted by itself. then i put " fail safe" bios setting and it recognized my card as 333 which is correct but then it didn't even start up windows or anyhthing . i defintely have to check if its defective. could u give me the link to that memtest cuz i got one a while back and it was all messed up and i didn't know how to use it. The Button To The Left Can Be Used To Reward Members For Good Posts

September 9th, 2004	Top \| #4
dreamliner77 The Analog Kid Joined: March 2002 Location: Red Sox Nation Posts: 4,638 Reputation: 1111 Power: 178	I know this is hard to remember: http://www.memtest86.com/ Or just in case you forgot, there's this great new search engine from this little start up company. I believe it www.google.com It's so cool, the memtest site was the first returned. You really should check this google thing out. It's amazing.... "You can fight without ever winning, but never win without a fight." -Neil Peart of RUSH

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Xie - geek - Joined: September 2003 Location: NY, USA Posts: 5,216 Reputation: 1730 Power: 171	Originally Posted by dreamliner77 I know this is hard to remember: http://www.memtest86.com/ Or just in case you forgot, there's this great new search engine from this little start up company. I believe it www.google.com It's so cool, the memtest site was the first returned. You really should check this google thing out. It's amazing.... Even better the updated and still being developed Memtest86+. tehgeek \| tehgeek \| geeking out to tech \| IRC \| Parted Magic \| A+ Certified Professional

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September 10th, 2004	Top \| #6
dreamliner77 The Analog Kid Joined: March 2002 Location: Red Sox Nation Posts: 4,638 Reputation: 1111 Power: 178	Only really needed for AMD64... "You can fight without ever winning, but never win without a fight." -Neil Peart of RUSH

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Xie - geek - Joined: September 2003 Location: NY, USA Posts: 5,216 Reputation: 1730 Power: 171	Originally Posted by dreamliner77 Only really needed for AMD64... I see more then AMD64 in the changelog. tehgeek \| tehgeek \| geeking out to tech \| IRC \| Parted Magic \| A+ Certified Professional

September 11th, 2004	Top \| #8
the_music_man aka prodj88 =P Joined: July 2002 Location: USA Posts: 2,401 Reputation: 730 Power: 149	hold on... my computer doesn't even boot with the Mushkin RAM so how the heck would this program check to see if it is faulty? The Button To The Left Can Be Used To Reward Members For Good Posts

September 11th, 2004	Top \| #9
Xie - geek - Joined: September 2003 Location: NY, USA Posts: 5,216 Reputation: 1730 Power: 171	Originally Posted by prodj88 hold on... my computer doesn't even boot with the Mushkin RAM so how the heck would this program check to see if it is faulty? How far into the boot process do you get ... not very discriptive in your 1st post. Also using this you would boot to it right after bios screen. tehgeek \| tehgeek \| geeking out to tech \| IRC \| Parted Magic \| A+ Certified Professional

September 16th, 2004	Top \| #10
the_music_man aka prodj88 =P Joined: July 2002 Location: USA Posts: 2,401 Reputation: 730 Power: 149	ok i tested my kingston and it got 100's on memtest. but never got around to doing mushkin cuz i had to RMA it quickly. but for the kingston one i get blue screens saying dumping physical memory and sometimes it even says b/c of a certain file like *.sys??? does anybody know what these blue screens mean? i did memtest on them flawlessly... and by the wya its usuually after im closing a game , (for instance i got the screen right after i exited Sims 2) The Button To The Left Can Be Used To Reward Members For Good Posts

September 16th, 2004	Top \| #11
Lee OSNN Proxy Joined: January 2004 Location: Kings Hill, West Malling, Kent, England. Posts: 3,330 Reputation: 1020 Power: 141	http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp memory tester sponsered by M$

September 16th, 2004	Top \| #12
the_music_man aka prodj88 =P Joined: July 2002 Location: USA Posts: 2,401 Reputation: 730 Power: 149	wow thanks i'll give it a try and tell you what happened The Button To The Left Can Be Used To Reward Members For Good Posts

September 17th, 2004	Top \| #13
Steevo Spammer representing. Joined: September 2004 Posts: 2,566 Blog Entries: 2 Reputation: 1630 Power: 132	what *.sys file? That error suggests a non NT compatable file. What are teh error numbers associated with the BSOD? The BSOD is usally when a driver or another file tries to read-write to a block of memory that has not been given to the process. Or that is in use by another process. Meow. Equal oppertunity hater.

September 17th, 2004	Top \| #14
the_music_man aka prodj88 =P Joined: July 2002 Location: USA Posts: 2,401 Reputation: 730 Power: 149	passed the windows memory test flawlessly...i'll take a pic of the blue screen and post it soon The Button To The Left Can Be Used To Reward Members For Good Posts

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toretto Mentally Absent Joined: February 2004 Location: Mankato, Minnesota, USA Posts: 226 Reputation: 70 Power: 100	all i know is that you cant mix 2100 and 2700 memory, you have to use either one or the other, the board should automatically underclock the 2700, which will probably make the 2700 stick not function correctly. Most Used: Genuine Intel(R) D850GB system board Windows* 2000 version 5.0 Service Pack 4 build 2195 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1700MHz Bus Speed 400 MHz L1: Data Cache 8KB, Execution Trace Cache 12K Micro-ops L2: Advanced Transfer Cache 256 KB 1,024 MB Kingston PC800 Rambus Memory Ati Radeon 9800 256 1 120gb WD 2 80gb WD HD's striped Sony Dual Layer DVD burner <----Did anything I Said help you at all... please share the love and click the reputation icon.

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September 17th, 2004	Top \| #16
dreamliner77 The Analog Kid Joined: March 2002 Location: Red Sox Nation Posts: 4,638 Reputation: 1111 Power: 178	I've never personally had an issue with mixing 2100 and 2700 (In a 2100 board). But you are right, the 2700 will be underclocked. "You can fight without ever winning, but never win without a fight." -Neil Peart of RUSH

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the_music_man aka prodj88 =P Joined: July 2002 Location: USA Posts: 2,401 Reputation: 730 Power: 149	i didn't mix them tho. when i had the 2700 i had it in by itself The Button To The Left Can Be Used To Reward Members For Good Posts

September 18th, 2004	Top \| #18
the_music_man aka prodj88 =P Joined: July 2002 Location: USA Posts: 2,401 Reputation: 730 Power: 149	ok so i can't live with a 256mb any more yall and i don't wanna waste money getin another RMA so what am i suppose to do? The Button To The Left Can Be Used To Reward Members For Good Posts

September 18th, 2004	Top \| #19
Lee OSNN Proxy Joined: January 2004 Location: Kings Hill, West Malling, Kent, England. Posts: 3,330 Reputation: 1020 Power: 141	Originally Posted by prodj88 ok so i can't live with a 256mb any more yall and i don't wanna waste money getin another RMA so what am i suppose to do? Cry!

September 18th, 2004	Top \| #20
Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,880 Reputation: 4110 Power: 309	if the mushkin is not working it may have something to do with the volts being supplied to the mem clip... given that you say you have tried everything else it would suggest that the clip is either faulty or there is insufficient power being delivered to the dimm slots... overall I would suggest rma'ing the mushkin and getting another 256 or a 512 clip of the kingston you have already since it works and you don't have to worry about compatability with it apparently... abit also have technical support forums... consider posting your query there since the people on those boards will likely be able to help you out with specifics... Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?