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**Sazar** · December 1st, 2003

all right lads... I replaced my msi kt3 ultra/amd 1900+/ddr 2700 with a p4 3.0c/msi 865PE Neo2/corsair xms ddr3200

gonna try and stick in a psuedo review on the forums with my thoughts and impressions of my first intel rig in a long time

first impressions... this baby is a blast

**Henyman** · December 1st, 2003

cool

**Grandmaster** · December 2nd, 2003

Alritey.

**Sazar** · December 2nd, 2003

I just installed my 2 new harddrives and am experimenting with striping/mirroring/striping and mirroring

also one of my friends 'borrowed' my system disks

I have to wait for him to bring it back so I can install all my video card drivers...

**NetRyder** · December 2nd, 2003

Ooh, welcome to the world of REAL processors.

You know I'm kidding.
Looking forward to the review. You have a classy system to play with there.

**Sazar** · December 2nd, 2003

heh

yah.. its not bad... hyperthreading certainly makes things interesting when there is a lot of processor load

and the motherboard is SWEET

I currently have 8 usb ports active... and space for 2 more for the front lol... and I have 4 firewire ports

I did manage to fill up all my IDE channels today... perhaps a long way in the future I will consider s-ata... right now the performance differential is not much and since I am striping I am sure I will get good enough performance

**NetRyder** · December 2nd, 2003

Hmm...always wondered how much HT improved real-world, day-to-day performance. Maybe you can give us some insight now.

Ah darn laptops...I could do with some more USB ports

And those unpowered hubs don't seem to do the job too well either.
One firewire works for me though.

**Sazar** · December 2nd, 2003

well... as it stands... d'top performance in day to day apps is far superior to what I had with my 1900+... everything is smoother...

I am still dling and installing apps so gaming performance will come later...

the northbridge cooling fan has built in led's that light things up real nice

loved it honesty...

bout the usb's... well one for mouse/keyboard/microphone/remote controller for the AIW and I am getting up there

the top row of usb ports is all filled up right now...

boot up is ridiculously fast.. you know that little bar that appears when winxp is loading ? with the little streaming banner that rolls by like night-rider's light thinger ?

well it only goes by about 1/2 way before windows starts loading... it used to go round a couple of times before...

**NetRyder** · December 2nd, 2003

Originally posted by Sazar
the northbridge cooling fan has built in led's that light things up real nice

Wow, sounds sweet

Originally posted by Sazar
boot up is ridiculously fast.. you know that little bar that appears when winxp is loading ? with the little streaming banner that rolls by like night-rider's light thinger ?

well it only goes by about 1/2 way before windows starts loading... it used to go round a couple of times before...

Damn! That's freaking insane. I'm sure the RAM is making a difference there too though, right?
I barely ever go through a full reboot on my lappy though. It's usually just standby/hibernate and resume.

**Sazar** · December 2nd, 2003

Originally posted by NetRyder
I barely ever go through a full reboot on my lappy though. It's usually just standby/hibernate and resume.

I used to leave my system on a fair bit... I still do... its on almost all day so I can use remote desktop from school or work on it @ home...

generally my system is on for 20 hrs a day... all day over weekends... but it tends to be off more often when my gf is around..

**NetRyder** · December 2nd, 2003

Originally posted by Sazar
but it tends to be off more often when my gf is around..

LOL! Just so that you don't need to focus your attention on two things at once?

Eck · December 3rd, 2003

My 3.0GHz should be here Friday. My system is already fricken' fast compared to anything else I've used. I hope there's at least some difference.

**Sazar** · December 3rd, 2003

Originally posted by Eck
My 3.0GHz should be here Friday. My system is already fricken' fast compared to anything else I've used. I hope there's at least some difference.

thats a nice mobo as well...

oc'ing should be a breeze... I dunno what asus calls their PAT but if it works anything like my boards.. you are going to have some serious fun

**xsivforce** · December 3rd, 2003

Originally posted by Sazar
generally my system is on for 20 hrs a day... all day over weekends... but it tends to be off more often when my gf is around..

Hiding the pr0n, eh?

**LeeJend** · December 3rd, 2003

Interesting. I have an XP2000 at home and just got a 2.8 gig P4 at work. Both systems have 512 Ram. The system at work runs Win 2000, Win XP at home.

I don't see a whole lot of speed improvement on the P4 2.8 gig over the XP2000 for every day applications. If anything the system at home is a little better. Probably because of the 9500 Pro vs on board video at work.

(Rant Pause: The barbarians order state of the art CPU's and brain dead graphics... Sigh! But it does have a CDRW with DVD ROM. I guess they want me to spend the day watching movies or something?)

Load times on both systems are so fast I don't even have time to check my voice mail before they boot. I'll have to clock them> Still need to check what the FSB and RAM speeds are at work. After 3 days I'm still trying to find where the IT people hid all my programs and data so I haven't started poking around into the hardware yet.

**Sazar** · December 3rd, 2003

Originally posted by xsivforce
Hiding the pr0n, eh?

btw leejend... over my 1900+... this is a far superior system... there is a noticeable speed improvement... very clear...

HT helps for sure but so does PAT

Eck · December 5th, 2003

Just installed my 3.0GHz. It's nice, haven't really done anything. So far, I can't tell much of a difference in Windows. My Sandra memory benchmark jumped up to 4880 MB/s.

One problem though:
Before, with my 2.4GHz, I could enable memory acceleration. Now, when I enable it my machine won't POST. :'(

I guess since I'm now running my DDR @ 400 as opposed to 266, it can't handle the mem accel. at 400. Oh well, not a biggie.

**Sazar** · December 6th, 2003

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December 1st, 2003	Top \| #1
Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,888 Reputation: 4110 Power: 313	[upcoming forum review] all right lads... I replaced my msi kt3 ultra/amd 1900+/ddr 2700 with a p4 3.0c/msi 865PE Neo2/corsair xms ddr3200 gonna try and stick in a psuedo review on the forums with my thoughts and impressions of my first intel rig in a long time first impressions... this baby is a blast Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

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December 2nd, 2003	Top \| #4
Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,888 Reputation: 4110 Power: 313	I just installed my 2 new harddrives and am experimenting with striping/mirroring/striping and mirroring also one of my friends 'borrowed' my system disks I have to wait for him to bring it back so I can install all my video card drivers... Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

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NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 297	Ooh, welcome to the world of REAL processors. You know I'm kidding. Looking forward to the review. You have a classy system to play with there. http://kunal.kundaje.net

December 2nd, 2003	Top \| #6
Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,888 Reputation: 4110 Power: 313	heh yah.. its not bad... hyperthreading certainly makes things interesting when there is a lot of processor load and the motherboard is SWEET I currently have 8 usb ports active... and space for 2 more for the front lol... and I have 4 firewire ports I did manage to fill up all my IDE channels today... perhaps a long way in the future I will consider s-ata... right now the performance differential is not much and since I am striping I am sure I will get good enough performance Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

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December 2nd, 2003	Top \| #3
Grandmaster Electronica Addict Joined: February 2002 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 10,574 Reputation: 2960 Power: 260	Alritey.

December 2nd, 2003	Top \| #7
NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 297	Hmm...always wondered how much HT improved real-world, day-to-day performance. Maybe you can give us some insight now. Ah darn laptops...I could do with some more USB ports And those unpowered hubs don't seem to do the job too well either. One firewire works for me though. http://kunal.kundaje.net

December 2nd, 2003	Top \| #8
Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,888 Reputation: 4110 Power: 313	well... as it stands... d'top performance in day to day apps is far superior to what I had with my 1900+... everything is smoother... I am still dling and installing apps so gaming performance will come later... the northbridge cooling fan has built in led's that light things up real nice loved it honesty... bout the usb's... well one for mouse/keyboard/microphone/remote controller for the AIW and I am getting up there the top row of usb ports is all filled up right now... boot up is ridiculously fast.. you know that little bar that appears when winxp is loading ? with the little streaming banner that rolls by like night-rider's light thinger ? well it only goes by about 1/2 way before windows starts loading... it used to go round a couple of times before... Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

December 2nd, 2003	Top \| #9
NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 297	Originally posted by Sazar the northbridge cooling fan has built in led's that light things up real nice Wow, sounds sweet Originally posted by Sazar boot up is ridiculously fast.. you know that little bar that appears when winxp is loading ? with the little streaming banner that rolls by like night-rider's light thinger ? well it only goes by about 1/2 way before windows starts loading... it used to go round a couple of times before... Damn! That's freaking insane. I'm sure the RAM is making a difference there too though, right? I barely ever go through a full reboot on my lappy though. It's usually just standby/hibernate and resume. http://kunal.kundaje.net

December 2nd, 2003	Top \| #10
Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,888 Reputation: 4110 Power: 313	Originally posted by NetRyder I barely ever go through a full reboot on my lappy though. It's usually just standby/hibernate and resume. I used to leave my system on a fair bit... I still do... its on almost all day so I can use remote desktop from school or work on it @ home... generally my system is on for 20 hrs a day... all day over weekends... but it tends to be off more often when my gf is around.. Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

December 2nd, 2003	Top \| #11
NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 297	Originally posted by Sazar but it tends to be off more often when my gf is around.. LOL! Just so that you don't need to focus your attention on two things at once? http://kunal.kundaje.net

December 3rd, 2003	Top \| #12
Eck .user Joined: June 2002 Location: United States Posts: 393 Reputation: 0 Power: 125	My 3.0GHz should be here Friday. My system is already fricken' fast compared to anything else I've used. I hope there's at least some difference. • Windows XP Home Edition SP2 • Pentium 4 3.0GHz • 1GB Kingston HyperX DDR 3200 • Asus P4P800 Motherboard • ATI Radeon X850 XT • SB Audigy 2 ZS • WD 36GB 10K Raptors RAID 0 • WD 120GB 7200 HD w/ 8MB Cache • 12x DVD+/-RW • 52x24x52 CD-RW • Screenshot \| Desk \| System Info \| 3D Benchmarks • Cardomain.com - My 96 Camaro Z28

December 3rd, 2003	Top \| #13
Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,888 Reputation: 4110 Power: 313	Originally posted by Eck My 3.0GHz should be here Friday. My system is already fricken' fast compared to anything else I've used. I hope there's at least some difference. thats a nice mobo as well... oc'ing should be a breeze... I dunno what asus calls their PAT but if it works anything like my boards.. you are going to have some serious fun Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

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xsivforce Prodigal Son Joined: February 2002 Location: Texas, USA Posts: 8,542 Reputation: 1410 Power: 225	Originally posted by Sazar generally my system is on for 20 hrs a day... all day over weekends... but it tends to be off more often when my gf is around.. Hiding the pr0n, eh? I miss you allllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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LeeJend OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: January 2003 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 5,261 Reputation: 3386 Power: 199	Interesting. I have an XP2000 at home and just got a 2.8 gig P4 at work. Both systems have 512 Ram. The system at work runs Win 2000, Win XP at home. I don't see a whole lot of speed improvement on the P4 2.8 gig over the XP2000 for every day applications. If anything the system at home is a little better. Probably because of the 9500 Pro vs on board video at work. (Rant Pause: The barbarians order state of the art CPU's and brain dead graphics... Sigh! But it does have a CDRW with DVD ROM. I guess they want me to spend the day watching movies or something?) Load times on both systems are so fast I don't even have time to check my voice mail before they boot. I'll have to clock them> Still need to check what the FSB and RAM speeds are at work. After 3 days I'm still trying to find where the IT people hid all my programs and data so I haven't started poking around into the hardware yet. Thought for the new millenium: In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? - Open Office - Firefox - Thunderbird - Gimp -Ubuntu - Red Hat -

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December 3rd, 2003	Top \| #16
Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,888 Reputation: 4110 Power: 313	Originally posted by xsivforce Hiding the pr0n, eh? btw leejend... over my 1900+... this is a far superior system... there is a noticeable speed improvement... very clear... HT helps for sure but so does PAT Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

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Eck .user Joined: June 2002 Location: United States Posts: 393 Reputation: 0 Power: 125	Just installed my 3.0GHz. It's nice, haven't really done anything. So far, I can't tell much of a difference in Windows. My Sandra memory benchmark jumped up to 4880 MB/s. One problem though: Before, with my 2.4GHz, I could enable memory acceleration. Now, when I enable it my machine won't POST. :'( I guess since I'm now running my DDR @ 400 as opposed to 266, it can't handle the mem accel. at 400. Oh well, not a biggie. • Windows XP Home Edition SP2 • Pentium 4 3.0GHz • 1GB Kingston HyperX DDR 3200 • Asus P4P800 Motherboard • ATI Radeon X850 XT • SB Audigy 2 ZS • WD 36GB 10K Raptors RAID 0 • WD 120GB 7200 HD w/ 8MB Cache • 12x DVD+/-RW • 52x24x52 CD-RW • Screenshot \| Desk \| System Info \| 3D Benchmarks • Cardomain.com - My 96 Camaro Z28

December 6th, 2003	Top \| #18
Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,888 Reputation: 4110 Power: 313	don't forget to change your sig Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?