AMD 64-bit single-core processor club

**Sazar** · March 23rd, 2004

Since we have a couple of lads on the forums who are investing in new A64 processors or already have em... thought it might be good to have a little club thinger

refer technical support questions and other pertinent questions in separate threads... due to the increased volume of posts in this thread related to general questions and support inquiries, it is better and easier for those questions to be addressed in separate threads in this forum section...

thanks

**ming** · March 23rd, 2004

I would like to join. However, I won't have an AMD64 until at least summer 2005 because my current system is running just fine and would like to see the BTX boards out before I upgrade.

**SPeedY_B** · March 23rd, 2004

Until they can actually be utilised, I'm staying away from 64-bit.

Yharn · March 23rd, 2004

Yay!!!! I can join the club.

my E-Machines M6805 has the A64 3000+ mobile CPU. Can't wait until either a 64-bit Windows is released or working wi-fi drivers are created for linux. The only thing holding me back from installing Linux is the wi-fi at this point. I use it all the time so I must have it.

**Sazar** · March 23rd, 2004

:confused:

as of right now the a64 based processors are much faster than their competition running 32bit apps...

THAT is the beauty of brilliant architecture...

**NetRyder** · March 23rd, 2004

Originally Posted by SPeedY_B

Until they can actually be utilised, I'm staying away from 64-bit.

Good point. Same here.

**Sazar** · March 23rd, 2004

Originally Posted by Yharn

Yay!!!! I can join the club. my E-Machines M6805 has the A64 3000+ mobile CPU. Can't wait until either a 64-bit Windows is released or working wi-fi drivers are created for linux. The only thing holding me back from installing Linux is the wi-fi at this point. I use it all the time so I must have it.

how bout dual booting ?

might help a bit in getting the best of both worlds..

**perris** · March 24th, 2004

microsoft is giiving a year trial on their xp64

give that a go

tri boot, the native, the linux, and the trial xp

**LeeJend** · March 24th, 2004

I thought the benchmarks were showing the AMD 64 FX was about the same speeed as the P4 Extreme?

**Sazar** · March 24th, 2004

Originally Posted by LeeJend

I thought the benchmarks were showing the AMD 64 FX was about the same speeed as the P4 Extreme?

use one.. you'll know...

**falconguard** · March 24th, 2004

have used both, the 64 runs fast stock, with no real tweaks. With 512 MB ram it's real life application beats the P4, have not tried the linux or the 64 bit windows yet, Bought it for my wife, but when she turns around I'll try a dual boot with the linux most likely. Hate to beta Windows, Gawd can you imagine the flaws?

**ming** · March 24th, 2004

Originally Posted by LeeJend

I thought the benchmarks were showing the AMD 64 FX was about the same speeed as the P4 Extreme?

Are you talking about same performance or same processor speed?
coz an AMD64 3200+ (2.2GHz) will run faster P4EE 3.2GHz.

Dan04 · March 24th, 2004

Woohoo own own little area hehe

Yharn · March 24th, 2004

Originally Posted by Sazar

how bout dual booting ?

might help a bit in getting the best of both worlds..

thought about it and may give it a try when i get some spare time.

tommy · March 24th, 2004

The Athlon 64 3400+, however, outperformed the 3.2GHz Pentium 4 in most of the benchmarks. In the less meaningful synthetic tests, and in the 3D modeling tests, the P4 outran the Athlons, but in our real world office and content creation benchmarks, and in the gaming benchmarks, the Athlon 64 was clearly faster. (just a snippet from hothardware site)

Gonna buy one soon

**Unleashed** · March 24th, 2004

Pfffft show offs :P

tommy · March 25th, 2004

Just a couple of questions..
Is it easy to fit and also what mobo do you advise me getting?
Can't wait to get it

**perris** · March 25th, 2004

Originally Posted by tommy

The Athlon 64 3400+, however, outperformed the 3.2GHz Pentium 4 in most of the benchmarks. In the less meaningful synthetic tests, and in the 3D modeling tests, the P4 outran the Athlons, but in our real world office and content creation benchmarks, and in the gaming benchmarks, the Athlon 64 was clearly faster. (just a snippet from hothardware site)

Gonna buy one soon

I'm with speedy, nobody should be making this upgrade who allready has a p4

however, those that are getting a new box regardless should be looking to this cpu, mostly because using this processor, your box will stay current for a much longer period of time then previous cpu investments

I will tell you, I tried the e emachine with this processor, and I noticed no improvement over my now old athlon

**Sazar** · March 25th, 2004

I had a p4 3.0c perris... whats your advice for me... ?

as for the thread... I started it with the intention of answering FAQ's and providing some on-the-fly tech support for people who HAVE or INTEND to get the processors and mobo's...

if this is going to denegrate continually into an AMD v/s INTEL thread there will have been no point to the thread at all...

I will respectfully ask everyone who posts in this thread to please stick to faq's/general comments and questions... opinions on why someone should or should not buy an athlon64 processor can be put in a separate thread...

**Sazar** · March 25th, 2004

Originally Posted by tommy

Just a couple of questions..
Is it easy to fit and also what mobo do you advise me getting?
Can't wait to get it

if you are willing to wait about a month we should have a couple of new mobo's hitting the deck.. @ the moment SiS and VIA have the better chipsets but the VIA chipset is in better boards (ie asus/msi) while SiS seems to have been implemented into cheaper boards (unfortunate since its a good general design)

nvidia's nf3 150 boards are just a little slower but don't have the features that the k8t800 chipset from VIA provides... this will change when their nf3-250 board debuts soon... it is currently being previewed on many sites..

the processor installation is easy... far easier than a socket A processor and the boards generally have a nice layout.. I bought the msi board for performance/features and board layout... I love massive space between the agp and dimm slots

if you have any other questions ask away...

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ming OSNN Advanced Joined: June 2003 Location: UK Posts: 4,252 Reputation: 1160 Power: 162	I would like to join. However, I won't have an AMD64 until at least summer 2005 because my current system is running just fine and would like to see the BTX boards out before I upgrade. Curent system: Intel Quad Core 9450 \| 4GB RAM \| WD Raptor 36GB \| nVidia 8800GT 512mb

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SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 15,800 Reputation: 2877 Power: 310	Until they can actually be utilised, I'm staying away from 64-bit. 1. SPeedYB.co.uk 2. CamPortal.co.uk 3. MacIRC.co.uk

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Yharn meh. Joined: June 2002 Location: Indiana, USA Posts: 324 Reputation: 30 Power: 124	Yay!!!! I can join the club. my E-Machines M6805 has the A64 3000+ mobile CPU. Can't wait until either a 64-bit Windows is released or working wi-fi drivers are created for linux. The only thing holding me back from installing Linux is the wi-fi at this point. I use it all the time so I must have it. Little Us

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Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,888 Reputation: 4110 Power: 313	:confused: as of right now the a64 based processors are much faster than their competition running 32bit apps... THAT is the beauty of brilliant architecture... Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

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NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 297	Originally Posted by SPeedY_B Until they can actually be utilised, I'm staying away from 64-bit. Good point. Same here. http://kunal.kundaje.net

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Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,888 Reputation: 4110 Power: 313	Originally Posted by Yharn Yay!!!! I can join the club. my E-Machines M6805 has the A64 3000+ mobile CPU. Can't wait until either a 64-bit Windows is released or working wi-fi drivers are created for linux. The only thing holding me back from installing Linux is the wi-fi at this point. I use it all the time so I must have it. how bout dual booting ? might help a bit in getting the best of both worlds.. Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

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perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,258 Reputation: 4333 Power: 291	microsoft is giiving a year trial on their xp64 give that a go tri boot, the native, the linux, and the trial xp

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LeeJend OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: January 2003 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 5,261 Reputation: 3386 Power: 199	I thought the benchmarks were showing the AMD 64 FX was about the same speeed as the P4 Extreme? Thought for the new millenium: In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? - Open Office - Firefox - Thunderbird - Gimp -Ubuntu - Red Hat -

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Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,888 Reputation: 4110 Power: 313	Originally Posted by LeeJend I thought the benchmarks were showing the AMD 64 FX was about the same speeed as the P4 Extreme? use one.. you'll know... Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

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falconguard Carbon based lifeform Joined: February 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,406 Reputation: 2305 Power: 158	have used both, the 64 runs fast stock, with no real tweaks. With 512 MB ram it's real life application beats the P4, have not tried the linux or the 64 bit windows yet, Bought it for my wife, but when she turns around I'll try a dual boot with the linux most likely. Hate to beta Windows, Gawd can you imagine the flaws?

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ming OSNN Advanced Joined: June 2003 Location: UK Posts: 4,252 Reputation: 1160 Power: 162	Originally Posted by LeeJend I thought the benchmarks were showing the AMD 64 FX was about the same speeed as the P4 Extreme? Are you talking about same performance or same processor speed? coz an AMD64 3200+ (2.2GHz) will run faster P4EE 3.2GHz. Curent system: Intel Quad Core 9450 \| 4GB RAM \| WD Raptor 36GB \| nVidia 8800GT 512mb

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Yharn meh. Joined: June 2002 Location: Indiana, USA Posts: 324 Reputation: 30 Power: 124	Originally Posted by Sazar how bout dual booting ? might help a bit in getting the best of both worlds.. thought about it and may give it a try when i get some spare time. Little Us

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tommy OSNN Member Joined: January 2004 Location: Salisbury. England Posts: 189 Reputation: 30 Power: 104	The Athlon 64 3400+, however, outperformed the 3.2GHz Pentium 4 in most of the benchmarks. In the less meaningful synthetic tests, and in the 3D modeling tests, the P4 outran the Athlons, but in our real world office and content creation benchmarks, and in the gaming benchmarks, the Athlon 64 was clearly faster. (just a snippet from hothardware site) Gonna buy one soon Athlon 64 3800 : Asus A8v Deluxe : 2x512meg corsair XMS XL PRO : Maxtor 120gb : nvidia 6800 Ultra OC

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tommy OSNN Member Joined: January 2004 Location: Salisbury. England Posts: 189 Reputation: 30 Power: 104	Just a couple of questions.. Is it easy to fit and also what mobo do you advise me getting? Can't wait to get it Athlon 64 3800 : Asus A8v Deluxe : 2x512meg corsair XMS XL PRO : Maxtor 120gb : nvidia 6800 Ultra OC

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perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,258 Reputation: 4333 Power: 291	Originally Posted by tommy The Athlon 64 3400+, however, outperformed the 3.2GHz Pentium 4 in most of the benchmarks. In the less meaningful synthetic tests, and in the 3D modeling tests, the P4 outran the Athlons, but in our real world office and content creation benchmarks, and in the gaming benchmarks, the Athlon 64 was clearly faster. (just a snippet from hothardware site) Gonna buy one soon I'm with speedy, nobody should be making this upgrade who allready has a p4 however, those that are getting a new box regardless should be looking to this cpu, mostly because using this processor, your box will stay current for a much longer period of time then previous cpu investments I will tell you, I tried the e emachine with this processor, and I noticed no improvement over my now old athlon

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Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,888 Reputation: 4110 Power: 313	I had a p4 3.0c perris... whats your advice for me... ? as for the thread... I started it with the intention of answering FAQ's and providing some on-the-fly tech support for people who HAVE or INTEND to get the processors and mobo's... if this is going to denegrate continually into an AMD v/s INTEL thread there will have been no point to the thread at all... I will respectfully ask everyone who posts in this thread to please stick to faq's/general comments and questions... opinions on why someone should or should not buy an athlon64 processor can be put in a separate thread... Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

March 25th, 2004	Top \| #20
Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,888 Reputation: 4110 Power: 313	Originally Posted by tommy Just a couple of questions.. Is it easy to fit and also what mobo do you advise me getting? Can't wait to get it if you are willing to wait about a month we should have a couple of new mobo's hitting the deck.. @ the moment SiS and VIA have the better chipsets but the VIA chipset is in better boards (ie asus/msi) while SiS seems to have been implemented into cheaper boards (unfortunate since its a good general design) nvidia's nf3 150 boards are just a little slower but don't have the features that the k8t800 chipset from VIA provides... this will change when their nf3-250 board debuts soon... it is currently being previewed on many sites.. the processor installation is easy... far easier than a socket A processor and the boards generally have a nice layout.. I bought the msi board for performance/features and board layout... I love massive space between the agp and dimm slots if you have any other questions ask away... Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?