Samurize Tutorials, Help, and Configs - Page 4

**Beginning** · July 15th, 2004

Originally Posted by Stu

I am using the following plugin and it works a charm: http://www.samurize.com/modules/mydo...?cid=6&lid=995

Can you empty your bin through samurize with a mouse click? I can't get that part to work... AAAARRRRRGGGGhhh.........

arthurn · July 23rd, 2004

Hi guys...

Interesting thread. I thought someone should mention the milk suite since it's so well-made and user-friendly. The greatest obstacle to fully utilizing Samurize's capabilities is its complexity and the overwhelming things it can do. I think the milk suite is a great example of simplifying things for the user, especially those who are not interested in programming or making their own skins. This suite seems to be a very popular choice, and especially great for beginners because the installation and configuration are completely automated and scripted. There is no need to edit the config files if you don't want to. There are also many skins available, including brushed metal, which fits in well with many mac themes.

Attached is my desktop capture. I'm using y'z dock, the milk visual style, milk skin for Rainlendar and Milk-iChat for Trillian (not shown). However, the spectrum display for iTunes is not working for me. If anyone knows a fix, please let me know. Comments are welcomed. By the way, I like the chrome clock, but it's too big and there is no easy way to resize it. Anyone has a solution?

Arthur.

**muzikool** · July 23rd, 2004

Nice post arthurn and welcome to OSNN!

I used the Milk Suite a while back and it's a great option if you don't want to get your hands dirty. I agree with you as well that the flexibility of the program makes it difficult. I know it took me quite a while to get comfortable with it!

**Beginning** · July 23rd, 2004

Nice setup there arthurn..

Yes the Milk suite is quite an extensive accomplishment..

I give all regard to the creators such as Tadis and Crni and Panther over at AS.. They've done a great job!! But you know some of the peeps around here like mess with Samurize and build thier own stuff, There are those who prefer to use ready made stuff and I'm all fine with that.. Welcome to the forum!!

Just trying to sound like I know something here.....

arthurn · July 23rd, 2004

Thanks... Any ideas how to make the spectrum work? Or make that clock smaller? Or maybe someone have a milk clock?

**Beginning** · July 23rd, 2004

You can resize the the whole 5 or 6 layers of the clock config inside samurize. I've done it . Just move the layers apart and then you can resize them..

arthurn · July 23rd, 2004

Hi Beginning... can you post your config files for the resized clock? Thanks.

**Beginning** · July 24th, 2004

Nope sorry I can't without permision.. Sorry.

arthurn · July 24th, 2004

Yes, Beginning... you are right, posting the file in this public forum is inappropriate. I do respect the owner's wishes. However, when I look at the readme file in the Chrome Clock zip, it says we cannot redistribute, but we can make personal changes. I suppose I could have made the changes myself, but since you mentioned you did it, I don't want to spend time on it (I'm lazy I guess). I wouldn't call it "redistributing" though... It seems like sometimes the boundary is not so clear...

arthurn · July 25th, 2004

Like, suppose you tell me what changes to make... that seems alright. Then suppose you send me the files in private... that seems alright to me too. As long as we are not posting the files publicly I think it's ok...

**Beginning** · July 25th, 2004

Like it says " but we can make personal changes. " That sounds like don't mod it and release it to me..

Correct me someone please?...............

arthurn · July 25th, 2004

Anyway... I sent an email to Crni asking for permission to share the modified file... let's see how he responds...

**Beginning** · July 25th, 2004

Good idea....

arthurn · July 25th, 2004

This is what Crni says...

Hi Arthur,
if you read carefully readme file :
http://free-st.htnet.hr/crni/Samurize/Chrome.gif
you will see that I hold no copyright over images used in clock config -
I've just ported konfab widget to samurize.
Original author is Ken Mastri ( kenarooni@yahoo.com ) so you have to ask
him for permission to modifiy his images.
Personally ,I think that resizing clock is so simple that anyone can
easily perform it by himself ...
... but if you get permission from Ken to modify his images then you
also have mine to share my config just include my readme file with it. hope this helps you

stay well
Crni

arthurn · July 25th, 2004

I think modifying the file is easier than all these "legal hurdles"...

**Beginning** · July 26th, 2004

Most definitely.

arthurn · July 27th, 2004

btw I made a smaller clock for myself at 200x200... just the right size for me...

arthurn · July 27th, 2004

I don't know if Samurize started off as a Konfabulator clone, though certainly its popularity has to do with it. There seems to be a lot of debate out there as to which one is original, which one is a copycat. DesktopX thinks it is original. Konfabulator thinks Apple copies it, and Apple may have a counter-argument as well.

What a mess...
And what about Samurize? Is it a copycat? The truth is, I don't really care as long as it's free and it works.

**Beginning** · July 27th, 2004

" My daddy always said.... If it ain't broke and it's free don't fix it... " or if you don't rock the boat, you won't fall in..

Yeah I'm not sure who thought of what first or what who is the copycat.. But yourright as long as it's good and free..

I like it!!

arthurn · July 27th, 2004

I emailed Ken Mastri (the original author of Chrome Clock on Konfabulator) and he is ok with me distributing smaller versions of the clock...

"Hello Arthur,
That sounds fine to me, if it is ok with Crni. Thanks for asking.
I'm glad you like the clock widget!
Ken Mastri"

July 15th, 2004	Top \| #61
Beginning I'm Beginning Somehow... Joined: June 2002 Location: XP-erience, NTFS, OSNN, here..... Posts: 1,261 Reputation: 360 Power: 110	Originally Posted by Stu I am using the following plugin and it works a charm: http://www.samurize.com/modules/mydo...?cid=6&lid=995 Can you empty your bin through samurize with a mouse click? I can't get that part to work... AAAARRRRRGGGGhhh.........
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July 23rd, 2004	Top \| #62
arthurn OSNN Junior Addict Joined: July 2004 Posts: 22 Reputation: 10 Power: 69	Milk Suite... Hi guys... Interesting thread. I thought someone should mention the milk suite since it's so well-made and user-friendly. The greatest obstacle to fully utilizing Samurize's capabilities is its complexity and the overwhelming things it can do. I think the milk suite is a great example of simplifying things for the user, especially those who are not interested in programming or making their own skins. This suite seems to be a very popular choice, and especially great for beginners because the installation and configuration are completely automated and scripted. There is no need to edit the config files if you don't want to. There are also many skins available, including brushed metal, which fits in well with many mac themes. Attached is my desktop capture. I'm using y'z dock, the milk visual style, milk skin for Rainlendar and Milk-iChat for Trillian (not shown). However, the spectrum display for iTunes is not working for me. If anyone knows a fix, please let me know. Comments are welcomed. By the way, I like the chrome clock, but it's too big and there is no easy way to resize it. Anyone has a solution? Arthur. Attached Thumbnails

July 23rd, 2004	Top \| #64
Beginning I'm Beginning Somehow... Joined: June 2002 Location: XP-erience, NTFS, OSNN, here..... Posts: 1,261 Reputation: 360 Power: 110	Nice setup there arthurn.. Yes the Milk suite is quite an extensive accomplishment.. I give all regard to the creators such as Tadis and Crni and Panther over at AS.. They've done a great job!! But you know some of the peeps around here like mess with Samurize and build thier own stuff, There are those who prefer to use ready made stuff and I'm all fine with that.. Welcome to the forum!! Just trying to sound like I know something here.....
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July 23rd, 2004	Top \| #66
Beginning I'm Beginning Somehow... Joined: June 2002 Location: XP-erience, NTFS, OSNN, here..... Posts: 1,261 Reputation: 360 Power: 110	You can resize the the whole 5 or 6 layers of the clock config inside samurize. I've done it . Just move the layers apart and then you can resize them..
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Beginning I'm Beginning Somehow... Joined: June 2002 Location: XP-erience, NTFS, OSNN, here..... Posts: 1,261 Reputation: 360 Power: 110	Nope sorry I can't without permision.. Sorry.
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July 23rd, 2004	Top \| #63
muzikool Act your wage. Joined: December 2001 Location: Texas, USA Reputation: Yes, please. Posts: 7,623 Reputation: 2900 Power: 205	Nice post arthurn and welcome to OSNN! I used the Milk Suite a while back and it's a great option if you don't want to get your hands dirty. I agree with you as well that the flexibility of the program makes it difficult. I know it took me quite a while to get comfortable with it!

July 23rd, 2004	Top \| #65
arthurn OSNN Junior Addict Joined: July 2004 Posts: 22 Reputation: 10 Power: 69	Thanks... Any ideas how to make the spectrum work? Or make that clock smaller? Or maybe someone have a milk clock?

July 23rd, 2004	Top \| #67
arthurn OSNN Junior Addict Joined: July 2004 Posts: 22 Reputation: 10 Power: 69	Hi Beginning... can you post your config files for the resized clock? Thanks.

July 24th, 2004	Top \| #69
arthurn OSNN Junior Addict Joined: July 2004 Posts: 22 Reputation: 10 Power: 69	Yes, Beginning... you are right, posting the file in this public forum is inappropriate. I do respect the owner's wishes. However, when I look at the readme file in the Chrome Clock zip, it says we cannot redistribute, but we can make personal changes. I suppose I could have made the changes myself, but since you mentioned you did it, I don't want to spend time on it (I'm lazy I guess). I wouldn't call it "redistributing" though... It seems like sometimes the boundary is not so clear...

July 25th, 2004	Top \| #70
arthurn OSNN Junior Addict Joined: July 2004 Posts: 22 Reputation: 10 Power: 69	Like, suppose you tell me what changes to make... that seems alright. Then suppose you send me the files in private... that seems alright to me too. As long as we are not posting the files publicly I think it's ok...

July 25th, 2004	Top \| #71
Beginning I'm Beginning Somehow... Joined: June 2002 Location: XP-erience, NTFS, OSNN, here..... Posts: 1,261 Reputation: 360 Power: 110	Like it says " but we can make personal changes. " That sounds like don't mod it and release it to me.. Correct me someone please?...............
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July 25th, 2004	Top \| #72
arthurn OSNN Junior Addict Joined: July 2004 Posts: 22 Reputation: 10 Power: 69	Anyway... I sent an email to Crni asking for permission to share the modified file... let's see how he responds...

July 25th, 2004	Top \| #73
Beginning I'm Beginning Somehow... Joined: June 2002 Location: XP-erience, NTFS, OSNN, here..... Posts: 1,261 Reputation: 360 Power: 110	Good idea....
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July 25th, 2004	Top \| #74
arthurn OSNN Junior Addict Joined: July 2004 Posts: 22 Reputation: 10 Power: 69	This is what Crni says... Hi Arthur, if you read carefully readme file : http://free-st.htnet.hr/crni/Samurize/Chrome.gif you will see that I hold no copyright over images used in clock config - I've just ported konfab widget to samurize. Original author is Ken Mastri ( kenarooni@yahoo.com ) so you have to ask him for permission to modifiy his images. Personally ,I think that resizing clock is so simple that anyone can easily perform it by himself ... ... but if you get permission from Ken to modify his images then you also have mine to share my config just include my readme file with it. hope this helps you stay well Crni

July 25th, 2004	Top \| #75
arthurn OSNN Junior Addict Joined: July 2004 Posts: 22 Reputation: 10 Power: 69	I think modifying the file is easier than all these "legal hurdles"...

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Beginning I'm Beginning Somehow... Joined: June 2002 Location: XP-erience, NTFS, OSNN, here..... Posts: 1,261 Reputation: 360 Power: 110	Most definitely.
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arthurn OSNN Junior Addict Joined: July 2004 Posts: 22 Reputation: 10 Power: 69	btw I made a smaller clock for myself at 200x200... just the right size for me...

July 27th, 2004	Top \| #78
arthurn OSNN Junior Addict Joined: July 2004 Posts: 22 Reputation: 10 Power: 69	Konfabulator? Dashboard? DesktopX? Desk Accessories? Who's copying who? I don't know if Samurize started off as a Konfabulator clone, though certainly its popularity has to do with it. There seems to be a lot of debate out there as to which one is original, which one is a copycat. DesktopX thinks it is original. Konfabulator thinks Apple copies it, and Apple may have a counter-argument as well. What a mess... And what about Samurize? Is it a copycat? The truth is, I don't really care as long as it's free and it works.

July 27th, 2004	Top \| #79
Beginning I'm Beginning Somehow... Joined: June 2002 Location: XP-erience, NTFS, OSNN, here..... Posts: 1,261 Reputation: 360 Power: 110	" My daddy always said.... If it ain't broke and it's free don't fix it... " or if you don't rock the boat, you won't fall in.. Yeah I'm not sure who thought of what first or what who is the copycat.. But yourright as long as it's good and free.. I like it!!
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July 27th, 2004	Top \| #80
arthurn OSNN Junior Addict Joined: July 2004 Posts: 22 Reputation: 10 Power: 69	I emailed Ken Mastri (the original author of Chrome Clock on Konfabulator) and he is ok with me distributing smaller versions of the clock... "Hello Arthur, That sounds fine to me, if it is ok with Crni. Thanks for asking. I'm glad you like the clock widget! Ken Mastri"