Don't shout at your hard drives..

**fitz** · January 21st, 2010

Ok.. so really it's to illustrate the impact on vibration on disks and performance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4

**LordOfLA** · January 22nd, 2010

cool

**dreamliner77** · January 22nd, 2010

Very interesting.

**Taurus** · January 22nd, 2010

he only mentions JBOD. i wonder if some forms of raid would somehow be more resistant?

**Aprox** · January 23rd, 2010

If the drop in performance is a result of vibration then I think it would be safe to assume that to some degree yelling at any platter based HD would result in a similar result.

**American Zombie** · January 24th, 2010

It is just vibration.
Put your speakers next to your hard drive then put on some music real loud and watch what happens.

**epk** · January 24th, 2010

um.. i think i have to move my subwoofer ;D

**Aprox** · January 26th, 2010

Or just buy SSD's

agptek11 · April 13th, 2010

If so, SSD will become expensive.

Nuadormrac · May 17th, 2010

Hmm, anyone remember those drives that had glass platters?

Hitachi Deskstar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The drives were also known for an unusually high rate of head crashes, due to the magnetic coating soon beginning to loosen and sprinkle off from the platters, creating dust in the hard disk array and leading to crashes over large areas of the platters. The combination of two technologies that were quite new at the time, GMR heads and glass platters, are said to be largely to blame for the issues.

Now, just imagine one of those drives, vs not just someone shouting at it, but an opera singer singing the high note in the Star Spangled Banner.

http://www.narod.tv/?vid=117038

**X-Istence** · October 27th, 2010

Originally Posted by Taurus

he only mentions JBOD. i wonder if some forms of raid would somehow be more resistant?

Nope. He is using ZFS on those Just a Bunch of Disks. That is RAID. It is vibration in the platters affecting those specific disks.

Originally Posted by Aprox

Or just buy SSD's

Yeah, SSD's would not be susceptible to this.

Originally Posted by agptek11

If so, SSD will become expensive.

How do you figure that?

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Fishworks is an amazing product from Sun err, I mean Oracle, it really is too bad that many founding members of Fishworks are leaving Oracle and that we probably will not see stuff like the above experiment come out of Oracle as it doesn't fit within their culture to have their engineers making videos of products and demonstrating products.

**Johnny** · October 28th, 2010

Are you saying that screaming at a HD will give the same affect as screaming at a plant does?

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Nuadormrac OSNN Addict Joined: September 2009 Posts: 66 Reputation: 382 Power: 33	Re: Don't shout at your hard drives.. Hmm, anyone remember those drives that had glass platters? Hitachi Deskstar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The drives were also known for an unusually high rate of head crashes, due to the magnetic coating soon beginning to loosen and sprinkle off from the platters, creating dust in the hard disk array and leading to crashes over large areas of the platters. The combination of two technologies that were quite new at the time, GMR heads and glass platters, are said to be largely to blame for the issues. Now, just imagine one of those drives, vs not just someone shouting at it, but an opera singer singing the high note in the Star Spangled Banner. http://www.narod.tv/?vid=117038

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